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#51 Ashuckel

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 04:58 AM

Was refering to Nightmare Amon Ra
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Posted 24 September 2016 - 10:08 AM

Panacea

 

Those lazy players who dont bring any status recovery items (they are many in WoE, specially on WoE TE)... And Holy water is less heavy and more cheap.

 

+20 gens camping at nightmare amonra spawn point would be an awesome scene to behold

 

Dont forget those AB trolls with Pneuma :v

 

Uber is there since i playing Sura too (that was 4~5 years? or maybe more...) good luck trying to steel his Amon-RA :v


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Posted 24 September 2016 - 08:23 PM

These cards will likely make even Sunflower Boy obsolete here in iRO. Crimson Rod + Mad Bunny with these cards will certainly deal higher damage on most High Tier monsters, and the vast majority of the MVPs of those races. And will even give some decent damage reduction. gg ez


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#54 YangeWenli

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Posted 24 September 2016 - 08:44 PM

yea was thinking about that sunflower boy will be lesser since you will want the mdef bypass from these and we dont have the tempest set you can walk around with 78~86% bypass with a +9~12 OBM+ the combos on those races


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Posted 24 September 2016 - 09:23 PM

It will be more of a case by case basis,

+12 Sunflower Boy 532~644 weapon matk

+15 Crimson Rod 205~285 weapon matk+275 equip matk

Don't forget that Mystical Amp doesnt affects equip matk


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Posted 24 September 2016 - 11:25 PM

how to hunt those crimson rod on thantos 5f, do i still need to do quest?

 

Edit: Haven't tried the quest, is it long? if ever it is needed


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Posted 25 September 2016 - 04:10 AM

things to note about big bells. currently it has 57 mdef or about 33% magic reduction. with 50% mdef ignore, its mdef becomes 27 or 20% magic reduction.
at +12 i think crimson rod is quite a tie by +12 thanatos staff if both using big ben + neo punk combo.
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Posted 25 September 2016 - 10:12 AM

was also thinking of TSOD since you could have 88~100% mdef bypass on the combo races but is TSOD worth without the skull cap?

 

EDIT: Nvm dont have the slotted TSOD yet xD but still pretty good 59%~62$ bypass the max bypass of GDS is like 48% though it also has the %matk bonus


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Posted 25 September 2016 - 02:31 PM

things to note about big bells. currently it has 57 mdef or about 33% magic reduction. with 50% mdef ignore, its mdef becomes 27 or 20% magic reduction.
at +12 i think crimson rod is quite a tie by +12 thanatos staff if both using big ben + neo punk combo.

The question is what is worth more: Thanatos proc or +10% damage card? But making a +15 Crimson seems cheaper and easier than a +12 Thanatos Staff, no?

I think SFB will be better on low MDEF monsters, but it's for level 170+, so it's unlikely that it will ever be better. It will be the epitome of staves and the rarest of them all... but will be worth -_- when it comes here because it will be surpassed by a simple card combo with a Level 3 Staff.

The distortions for not following KRO are just starting. ^^

Edited by Kusanagisama, 25 September 2016 - 02:47 PM.

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#60 YangeWenli

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Posted 25 September 2016 - 02:56 PM

lol


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Posted 25 September 2016 - 03:15 PM

The question is what is worth more: Thanatos proc or +10% damage card? But making a +15 Crimson seems cheaper and easier than a +12 Thanatos Staff, no?

 

on avg, 747m to make a +15 crimson rod compared to 527m for a +12 thanatos staff (with event rates)


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#62 Kusanagisama

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Posted 25 September 2016 - 05:15 PM

on avg, 747m to make a +15 crimson rod compared to 527m for a +12 thanatos staff (with event rates)


Thank you. Saved me the time. I hate doing these stuff on a phone. A +14 is cheaper though, at ~420M.

Edited by Kusanagisama, 25 September 2016 - 05:21 PM.

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Posted 26 September 2016 - 12:29 AM

Save slotted Mad Bunny for Kalitzbooby card may be better?
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Posted 26 September 2016 - 01:05 AM

That owl viscount card looks tasty


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 01:50 AM

its a meh
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Posted 26 September 2016 - 05:34 AM

i cant wait for Infinite Toad Card :D


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 03:22 PM

I'm still waiting for the plants to drop cards. Lol

Will these be included in OCAs?
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Posted 26 September 2016 - 03:30 PM

Verit a new "Hibram" makes me sad.


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 03:33 PM

I'm looking forward to this. I love playing Ninpou Kagerou so these are some great cards. But now I'm at a loss, RWC knife + bazerald, or RWC knife + Shield for mdef bypass. Guess it depends on my matk and their mdef eh. Haha. 


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 04:08 PM

Rwc+ Knife[4]
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Posted 26 September 2016 - 04:19 PM

Verit a new "Hibram" makes me sad.

matk +10% vs MATK +50% on human & angel, really?


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 04:29 PM

hense in quotes

 

Some of those cards have near the same properties as mvp cards.


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 05:16 PM

yea a mini FBH i think sealed FBH was like 25% so a mini sealed FBH at 10%   :p_idea:


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 05:39 PM

if i use big bell, big ben, and neo punk cards at the same time. means i got double combo from neo punk right? 50% mdef ignore, and 50% def ignore


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Posted 26 September 2016 - 05:50 PM

if i use big bell, big ben, and neo punk cards at the same time. means i got double combo from neo punk right? 50% mdef ignore, and 50% def ignore

 

if it works, where would that be useful?? only thing i can think of is vartyr spear??

 

another question: would the 50% def ignore be nice on a IB build lvling in NCT then??


Edited by ZanRen, 26 September 2016 - 05:51 PM.

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