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#251 ShinobiEX3

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 04:05 AM

Look they already force fed us the unfrozen set. So where are our past updates we missing that actually matters? Now they come back with mvp sets again? Kro people needs to be slapped 5 ways through sunday. Give the bloody hell updates we've been missing that in kaddies post, then come back and talk about mvp kafra shadow sets

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#252 RichieDagger

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 04:09 AM

Campitor,

I know you're a good GM, that's a good think.

 

I understand this wasn't used in the context of Newspeak, but it's awfully funny to read it with that mind.

 

Example:
If you wear this while fighting Marc's you will have a chance to get parts of the Unfrozen Shadow Set.
If you wear this while fighting Thanatos you will have a chance to get parts of the Penetration Shadow Set.

Real Proposal: Meat the novices to recover hp!

 

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Drop rates?

Novice meat?

 

 


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#253 louisn1234

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 05:56 AM

Honestly if u guys insist implement those shadow penetration set and other MvPs sets without massive scaling down the effect, why don't just implement those mvp sealed cards. It doesn't really matter at the point of time honestly. Those shadow sets probably have better effect than mvp sealed cards

Warpportal seems like forced to implement it probably due to agreement binding or need to meet revenue target etc.
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#254 WarlockFier

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:08 AM

From the looks of it, they just want to implement the 'content' given by kRO, despite the community don't want it. The contents become useless in their database and goes to waste. Thus they are trying to find ways to force it in. Imo they are like 'cancer cells'... You try to inject and force it into the game, it will grow into a giant problem. But that's just my opinion.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:15 AM

"If you wear this while fighting Thanatos [or any MVP] you will have a chance to get parts of the Penetration Shadow Set."

 

> Put all MVPs in the summoner 24/7. Noob players can have a chance to receive the the set.

> The dropped part automatically goes to a character who does the most damages to the MVP to one random member of the party.

> The parts dont drop from BB'ed MVPs. Everyone has the equal chance to do the summoner.

> Make the sets account bound.

 

And here comes, the most important part, xD

> The set works in WoE/PvP because it is super easy to ez tank damages in WoE with a simple WoE set, given no weakness masq'ed. Killers need damages :p_idea: :p_hi:


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#256 ShinobiEX3

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:15 AM

Just put all the cute reward hats in cash shop too like bijofnil feather and stuff. Since u guys want to put in shadow mvp sets lets go all in. MVP shadow sets, Sealed MVP cards,  Rare Headgears from events,  Para Market, Lets just KAfra shop it all up and see how much money u get. ^.^


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:19 AM

It is apparent they are "compelled" to have it slip through in any way possible seeing all these different attempts to have the community approve of it. CM Dilemmas.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:20 AM

Can we get a masqs immunity set?


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:21 AM

Sealed MVP Cards  :rice:  god I miss my S.TGK Boitata Armor


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:27 AM

Actually just tell kRO you'll implement it SOON™ then never do it. That's what they do when we ask for fixes and more important stuff, yet get denied for years.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:47 AM

Campitor, can you address where Oda said these would not be put in, but now it's suddenly back on the table?

I mentioned it before, but I hope that everyone is considering how many BBs are actually out there.
Also, if a monster drops a shadow that you have to turn in, that shadow can be duped until an account has a full set. After that, the account can be sold for $$$.

There's way more negatives here than positives.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:49 AM

"If you wear this while fighting Thanatos [or any MVP] you will have a chance to get parts of the Penetration Shadow Set."

 

> Put all MVPs in the summoner 24/7. Noob players can have a chance to receive the the set.

> The dropped part automatically goes to a character who does the most damages to the MVP to one random member of the party.

> The parts dont drop from BB'ed MVPs. Everyone has the equal chance to do the summoner.

> Make the sets account bound.

 

And here comes, the most important part, xD

> The set works in WoE/PvP because it is super easy to ez tank damages in WoE with a simple WoE set, given no weakness masq'ed. Killers need damages :p_idea: :p_hi:

10000 Eden Merit Badges and 1 million Old Purple Boxes in someone's storage is a very "equal chance" :p_idea:  :p_hi:


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:55 AM

physical immunity set please  :p_swt:


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:55 AM

Campitor, can you at least provide us info on how well kRO's economy fared with all the shadow sets?


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 06:55 AM

10000 Eden Merit Badges and 1 million Old Purple Boxes in someone's storage is a very "equal chance" :p_idea:  :p_hi:

 

Not really sure what eden merit badges are and What is a OPB? Last time I farmed the badges was in 2013 when I geared up my RG I think. I only WoE now :3

Go watch my WoE videos first, Join Vigilantes later lmfao

 

Edit: I remember it now! LOL Dude, just remove the reset on summoner. Problem solved D:<


Edited by ChakriGuard, 22 September 2016 - 06:58 AM.

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#266 Myzery

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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:08 AM

10000 Eden Merit Badges and 1 million Old Purple Boxes in someone's storage is a very "equal chance" :p_idea:  :p_hi:

 

As a newer player that does PvM, what are your honest thoughts about this?
Everyone has different goals and aspirations, but the majority of PvM players that I know hold MvP cards as a prestigious goal to work towards.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:30 AM

This community... I can't even...
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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:42 AM

To be honest the sets and all seem good...

 

Only question is how will you tackle the botting situation for the sets?

 

--- Please Make them Account bound.. 

 

Having MVP Sets is good as long as you put the drop rate of those pieces as same as the card. 

 

People will adapt to the changes.. They always do.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:47 AM

You're right, people will always adapt to change. That's why there is already people adapting to other servers or other games.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:49 AM

Some other server from somewhere transfer to iRO maybe last year, because of too much pay 2 win stuff on their server or too much overpowered gear on that server. If we do implement this, is there is a chance we will transfer to jRO instead of kRO~?


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:53 AM

I guess the implementation of these sets is unavoidable at this point. This thread is to find out how to disappoint as few players as possible I suppose.

If kRO does require iRO to implement this before getting new updates, just keep them at card rate drop. Please no higher than that.


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 07:55 AM

Implement 3rd class shadow sets


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 08:12 AM

im telling u. if they want money so bad. put all the rare headgears in kafra shop lmao money problems solved lol


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Posted 22 September 2016 - 08:16 AM

I guess the implementation of these sets is unavoidable at this point. This thread is to find out how to disappoint as few players as possible I suppose.
If kRO does require iRO to implement this before getting new updates, just keep them at card rate drop. Please no higher than that.

I second this. Reason is the effect active on shadow gear for mvp sets which doesn't take up any slot in gears or equipment.

So it should be as rare as mvp card even harder to obtain than normal mvp card due to there is no negative effect at all.

The existing shadow gear should stay in kp shop. I don't see any point it should be drop from normal mobs.

Well this proposal is pretty unnecessary IMHO, but if u guys insist to implement it, please take the above point as consideration
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Posted 22 September 2016 - 08:35 AM

Going to be working on version 3 of the proposal since we have gotten a lot of feed back to what sets players want/don't want.

 

To Explain why MVP sets were included:

They are sets that were sent to us to consider in a large batch so we listed everything in the batch so that there would be fresh feedback on them to show the studio and set the baseline for what works..

 

Summary of our thoughts on version 3

 

MVP Shadow Sets - Should not be implemented as normal shadow gears.

Shadow Sets should be trade able.

Immunity Shadow Sets should be blocked in WoE/PVP (this includes the unfreezing set). (There will be a question about this - regarding if rogue were able to strip these gears would the blocking be needed)

Other sets are not as massively changing to the function of the pvp scene and do not need to be blocked.

 

Drop rate of the items should be .06% chance versus the card rate of .02 chance. Please note that this is for the item that will then have a 1/3 - 1/8 chance to have any specific item.

 

Once we are done with the maintenance we will work on version 3 for posting.  

 


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