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#1 HeresNatan

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 08:02 AM

My purpose is a list creation with gears that need updgrade because doesn't have enough power/ resistence.

So.. share your dreamed slot gear. Chose a class isn't only a power question, but a glamour, fashion decision ;). Stop with one way game and lets have more than 4 classes (while 1 class with 3 different choices, all with enough bennefits to make it hard to choose)

Cause a game with no options is a game whos losing 9 in 10 potential players.

 

 

 
 
 
I'll start with Maroll battle gear:
 
Stop to crate new gears, but update old. glorious sets should have slots to be the best when you look for Woe set.
Slot in armors, garments, weapons. Why? still expensive and worst than should be. Create another maroll gear is the same that kick old players ass while get fun with that.... So better a low % increase with new players and old players getting happy...
 
 
AB M.o.r.a sets
 
AFFECTION GEAR->
So i think we should have slots in affection set armor (at min) and also shoes and garment too. Why? because this set only has holy element in armor, so you can't use It in places like BIO lab cause you will freeze and get JT (wind) and die....
 
JUDGEMENT GEAR->
Reason: no resistence with this set. Empowered mace has only one slot and the whole set has only this (could be twice in emp mace). Armor should has a slot because its an elemental armor (shadow) that's make you weak to thank magical fire, as another skills... There's no sense about It in 175 lvl renewal (maybe in 150lvl renewal). Also shoes and garment should have one slot each one to make AB class a true power against demons with the only  set that allow you use adoramus with some power.
 
 
Maestro gears
 
UKULELE: mandatory gear for AV skills (weakest ATM). Thats a good skill with beautiful animation but the power is nothing if dont have a +19 ukulele XD. So I think It must be 4 slots to have enough power. Of course AV has no enough power for a single target skill (one of best skills in the past). Maybe 2000% instead 1,200% power should be nice too, since maestro has no advantage to choose this skils even with gears like ukulele because you can do more 30k damage with +100% power with this horrible damage skill...
 
Bow of storm:
1 slot... If its a maestro BXB we have nothing. Ranger has a mora set, we don't. Ranger has an enchant set, we don't. Ranger has an autumm headband, while we have nothing(bugged gears) and horrible amplifiers (metallic sound increase 30k to 50k-> pvp 2~4k damage)......
Lets change some things... Make new ways to get fun. New gear needs to be compared to implemented gear while ever look for another classes in game and their power.
 
 
Ranger Gears
 
Black Wing Set:
This set allows you use a traper ranger/dagger. As we know, ranger has a low HP and can't tank properly. So, A black manteu with slot makes sense to incentive new options for rangers. As a a player (Fiukun) said, he prefers a slot in manteau (usefully to survive while tank a  Mob). Anyway I think that we only need one more slot without any replacement, cause Its not an OP idea and should increase the funny for people who's in love with this class.
 
 
Wizzard Gears
 
Thorn star of darkness: It needs a slot too. What do you think?
This weapon already has a slotted version in KRO (4 YEARS AGO)
 
 
Your time to philosophize

 

 

 


Edited by HeresNatan, 03 November 2016 - 01:03 AM.

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#2 ShinobiEX3

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 08:55 AM

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 10:55 AM

Personally, I'd happily sacrifice the slot on Sapha and Nab cloths for a free Angeling card. 

 

There are also sets, like the Ur/Peuz that don't even have slots (though tho have some innate abilities that are pretty neat, tho not Angeling level neat.) 


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 01:05 PM

Personally, I'd happily sacrifice the slot on Sapha and Nab cloths for a free Angeling card. 

 

There are also sets, like the Ur/Peuz that don't even have slots (though tho have some innate abilities that are pretty neat, tho not Angeling level neat.) 

 

Open your mind bro, ragnarok is a game with different knowledges. when you re an AB you have +/- 30k HP, so you die in the first opportunity. You re not a Gx, so 25% less dmg with holy element isn't the right choice for a low HP class 

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 03:25 PM

I don't doubt they're more squishy, but there is always an opportunity cost. Not all things should be "ideal", IMO, and there has to be a choice made of whether you want to use that set for bonus X or break the set for defense against a specific element. 

 

Anyway, I wouldn't mind if a slot was given to those armors -- at the cost of their natural element. 


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:22 PM

I agree it would be great if the Judgement set for an Exorcist Archbishop had some slotted gears like the White Wing set for Rangers.


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:43 PM

i agree with mild, i suggest we can add custom NPC feature to slot them but with drawbacks to keep the balance. so we can choose whether we want it to be slotted or not.

robe of affection -> robe of affection [1], lose its holy element, lose its ability to be enchanted. but the set combo still applied.

same goes to robe of judgement
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Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:50 PM

Yeah that'd be fine. :ok: I wouldn't mind if the Judgement set lost its element status in exchange for a slot since that's not what I'd be using it for when it comes to increasing Adoramus damage like how White Wing increases Arrow Storm damage.


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 02:59 AM

i agree with mild, i suggest we can add custom NPC feature to slot them but with drawbacks to keep the balance. so we can choose whether we want it to be slotted or not.

robe of affection -> robe of affection [1], lose its holy element, lose its ability to be enchanted. but the set combo still applied.

same goes to robe of judgement

 

TY

Only if we get this rule for every set like the ranger white wing suit, so there's no sense insert a nerf without turn IT the rule for every class... 

and again: both-> ranger and ABs have worst HP, so they need a good gear to survive.....

 

Can you tell us another stuff to get slots (your xperience with another obsolete gear from another class?)


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 03:18 AM

Yeah that'd be fine. :ok: I wouldn't mind if the Judgement set lost its element status in exchange for a slot since that's not what I'd be using it for when it comes to increasing Adoramus damage like how White Wing increases Arrow Storm damage.

 

The shadow element is another theme.. Since I get a slot, I won't chose shadow or holy cause thats a class with horrible HP, so the way to survive is with MVP cards or element armors for each place. I dont know if you have these sets... you can't use an affection set in places like bio4 cause you will  die by jupitel thinder (wind) even with 25% less, because you still fragile... so if you got a slot, probably you will choose dokebi or a OP card...

There's no a real bennefit to stay with holy element or shadow element... since Magical skills still killing you faster, the way is have one fire, wind, water armors... so ... that's a secondary thing...

 

I just want a few change in game because if we ask for a simple change, we get. If we still complexing things, team won't do anything....

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 03:21 AM

IMO it is black wing set.
black wing set suppose to be for trapper and dagger user, and the set suppose to cater tankiness and evasiveness. but the set lost its purpose by the time the manteau is unslotted which makes the user cant put raydric, choco or deviling. it makes the set to be meaningless.
i suggest to switch slot from black wing boots to black wing manteau. so the boots become unslotted and the manteau slotted.
why i should sacrifice slot on boots? coz in terms of tanking, the boots lack of essential tanking stuff like damage reduction or perfect dodge. the best card to fill the boots perhaps firelock soldier card, but the usefulness of firelock card (more HP) cant be compared to pure tanking element (neutral redux, elemental redux, perfect dodge).
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Posted 07 October 2016 - 06:49 AM

IMO it is black wing set.
black wing set suppose to be for trapper and dagger user, and the set suppose to cater tankiness and evasiveness. but the set lost its purpose by the time the manteau is unslotted which makes the user cant put raydric, choco or deviling. it makes the set to be meaningless.
i suggest to switch slot from black wing boots to black wing manteau. so the boots become unslotted and the manteau slotted.
why i should sacrifice slot on boots? coz in terms of tanking, the boots lack of essential tanking stuff like damage reduction or perfect dodge. the best card to fill the boots perhaps firelock soldier card, but the usefulness of firelock card (more HP) cant be compared to pure tanking element (neutral redux, elemental redux, perfect dodge).

ty.. 

updated and I think It's very interesting for rangers


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Posted 02 November 2016 - 11:48 AM

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Wizzard Gears

 

Thorn star of darkness: It needs a slot too. What do you think?


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Posted 02 November 2016 - 11:51 AM

Thorn Staff of Darkness received a slotted version 4 years ago on kRO. The patch never reached us though. http://www.divine-pr...abase/item/1664


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 12:48 AM

Thorn Staff of Darkness received a slotted version 4 years ago on kRO. The patch never reached us though. http://www.divine-pr...abase/item/1664

Ty a lot... thats a good one


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 06:40 AM

They're actually easier to get on iRO than you may think specially with opb exchange and seal rewards and thanks god they're not character bound like on other servers.


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 10:04 AM

Seriously? You think ab is a class with poor and outdated equipment?
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Posted 03 November 2016 - 11:21 AM

Seriously? You think ab is a class with poor and outdated equipment?

 

Well.. Mora has the TOP gear for some classes. Affection set doesn't work cause AB has low HP. Judgement SET is another one, but doesn't help you survive because theres no slot. Shrine + divine cross only works for low HP monsters cause it has a huge delay. 

 

Outdated content? yes, because when we had 150 lvl, all sets had another importance. Judgemnt set could be for PVP, MVP. BUt now, thats not tooo good when you compare with another classes. 
I know that's not the most outdated class, but all buffs from 175 lvl took our power. If I spend the same zenys in a ranger, I could be a monster....

Anyway, I'm fighting for diversity in this game. I know we have a lot os ABs in server, but for slavers.

 

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 11:44 AM

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 12:04 PM

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 01:07 PM

Shadow Chaser is unnecessary?

 

I agree; everyone should stop playing an SC in WoE especially. 

 

I do appreciate that there are 69 super novices and a level 135+ blacksmith and assassin though. 

 

Question though, if maestro and wanderer are in the 'unnecessary class' section; what classes are in the alt+tab slave section? 


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Posted 04 November 2016 - 07:44 AM

Shadow Chaser is unnecessary?

 

I agree; everyone should stop playing an SC in WoE especially. 

 

I do appreciate that there are 69 super novices and a level 135+ blacksmith and assassin though. 

 

Question though, if maestro and wanderer are in the 'unnecessary class' section; what classes are in the alt+tab slave section? 

 

If you play RO for a log time, you want to make another class to experimental things. Some people want to play all classes or only one. But, these classes only have some necessary skills. So, they have a good skill, not a good balance, or properly gears like top5 classes. 

OK.. that's not a right way to xplain, but these classes are only 1 skills..

Why do u need a maestro? to play magic strings/ sp...

That's nota good incentive to decrease differences in choices.. Actually, this problem is worst than pre-renewal and NEEEED A CHANGE 

 

PS. i ever play with maestro for 10 years ago and now AB and ranger. I might choose AB/MAESTRO if we get a good update for game... This game had potential to be a free to choose, free to decide what do you want to be, and all with success.


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Posted 11 November 2016 - 03:43 PM

 

Ranger Gears

 
Black Wing Set:
This set allows you use a traper ranger/dagger. As we know, ranger has a low HP and can't tank properly. So, A black manteu with slot makes sense to incentive new options for rangers. As a a player (Fiukun) said, he prefers a slot in manteau (usefully to survive while tank a  Mob). Anyway I think that we only need one more slot without any replacement, cause Its not an OP idea and should increase the funny for people who's in love with this class.
 

I hope GMs are reading and hasten this request, think of it as a compensation to the failed AHB proposal for the trappers. ATM, the set offers nothing, if i want damage/survavbility and all.. FAW/HBP set up will always beat BW set both on offensive and defensive side


Edited by CadburyChocolate, 11 November 2016 - 03:53 PM.

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