16k heals are reached. - Page 2 - Acolyte Class - WarpPortal Community Forums

Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

16k heals are reached.


  • Please log in to reply
50 replies to this topic

#26 Tkwan

Tkwan

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 2260 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:23 PM

Bummer. I was worried that might be the case. I calculated the highest possible considering a multiplicative factor.

 

So then taking that into consideration and revising the totals:

 

12565

+50% from mystical amplification scroll

=18,847

+100% from isia rune and from incoming healing gears

=37,694

 

Total Final Heal= 37,694

Total Final High Heal= 120,620

 

 

 

Still the best way to find out for sure would be to test it.

 

 


  • 0

#27 Ashuckel

Ashuckel

    '-' intensifies

  • Members
  • 18996 posts
  • LocationJohto, Hoenn, Unova, Kalos, Alola
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:35 PM

Mystical Amp doesnt do that.
  • 0

#28 PervySageMarty

PervySageMarty

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 3956 posts
  • LocationUnderground like a wild potato
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:46 PM

Look, when the server comes up, ill think about doing it.


  • 0

#29 Ashuckel

Ashuckel

    '-' intensifies

  • Members
  • 18996 posts
  • LocationJohto, Hoenn, Unova, Kalos, Alola
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 07 March 2017 - 12:52 PM

Amp only boost your matk, and matk part of the heal is minor compared to the INT part
  • 0

#30 PervySageMarty

PervySageMarty

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 3956 posts
  • LocationUnderground like a wild potato
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 07 March 2017 - 01:03 PM

is the matk from fresh shrimp counted as weapon matk?

 

I know Symphony of Lovers from Wanderers count as weapon matk and therefore does effect heal but what about fresh shrimp?


  • 0

#31 Ashuckel

Ashuckel

    '-' intensifies

  • Members
  • 18996 posts
  • LocationJohto, Hoenn, Unova, Kalos, Alola
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 07 March 2017 - 02:54 PM

i have not messed with it yet, but so far what i've seen on RO, is that every buff that adds X% atk/matk actually adds that amount on the final damage. So idk if it would work with heals


  • 0

#32 PervySageMarty

PervySageMarty

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 3956 posts
  • LocationUnderground like a wild potato
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 07 March 2017 - 03:16 PM

I'll go test the waters then on it.


  • 0

#33 Kadelia

Kadelia

    Rainbow Sparkle, Go!

  • Members
  • 14312 posts
  • LocationVirginia, USA
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos/Renewal

Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:10 AM

matk formula increases does affect heal but the increase is marginal due to how it is applied, adds like like 3-5 hp more healed typically for a +10% matk gear or something.


  • 0

#34 Ashuckel

Ashuckel

    '-' intensifies

  • Members
  • 18996 posts
  • LocationJohto, Hoenn, Unova, Kalos, Alola
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:20 AM

The total matk is a flat addition to the ampount healed. 50matk= +50 on the heal. That's why it's bad.
  • 0

#35 Kadelia

Kadelia

    Rainbow Sparkle, Go!

  • Members
  • 14312 posts
  • LocationVirginia, USA
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos/Renewal

Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:21 AM

yep...


  • 0

#36 Tkwan

Tkwan

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 2260 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:04 AM

I wasn't sure if that was how mystical amp actually functioned or not since I don't use a warlock and plenty of things in RO don't work as stated.  I went with best case scenario.

 

 

Regardless, the 12.5k base heal is still doable, and with a mystical amp at 1k matk would then add 500 for a total of 13k. That would mean that the 100% bonus healing should heal then 26k normal heal, and 83k high heal.

 

Not as impressive as breaking 100k but still pretty decent.

 

 

 

 

After some long hard consideration marty, I do agree that priests have been shafted on healing. We are still the main group heals imo as a doram just can't beat our utility, but our heals to average hp is so low, especially compared to pre-ren.

 

It would be nice if kRO adjusted the formula to make priests heal around 12k as a standard heal at max level without having to go max healing gears like that. That would bring the relative hp-heal comparison much closer to what it originally was intended in pre.

 

 

 

Out of curiousity, I was trying to figure out what they could actually do in order to not break all the classes that have heal or can use a heal skill. The only thing I could think of was adding additional bonus healing to meditatio and offertorium. If meditatio were boosted to 10% healing per level with a max of 100%, and offertorium maxed out at level 5 with 300%, then finally, with mediocre gears and lvl 175 a 10k heal could be reached and priests would be so much more viable for healing again. - But that's just dreaming.

 

 


Edited by Tkwan, 08 March 2017 - 11:07 AM.

  • 0

#37 Kadelia

Kadelia

    Rainbow Sparkle, Go!

  • Members
  • 14312 posts
  • LocationVirginia, USA
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos/Renewal

Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:07 AM

I am not sure that mystic amp even works with heal


  • 0

#38 Ashuckel

Ashuckel

    '-' intensifies

  • Members
  • 18996 posts
  • LocationJohto, Hoenn, Unova, Kalos, Alola
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:23 AM

I am not sure that mystic amp even works with heal

 


  • 0

#39 DexRain

DexRain

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 300 posts
  • LocationProbably stuck at work lurking the forums
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos Renewal + Classic

Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:55 PM

I vaguely remember having 4.k+ heals on my HP pre renewal with I want to say around 150~int using a +8 Healing Staff, man I've missed a ton since I left <.<


  • 0

#40 Casval17

Casval17

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1376 posts
  • LocationAxis Debris
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos Renewal

Posted 08 March 2017 - 05:30 PM

AB got self buff which increase your Healing capabilities far beyond a mere White Lady card could provide :heh:

 

but HP with that amount of heal and total stats is quite good during pre-renew era, even average HP with maxed out meditatio and some boosting healing gears can only reach 3k-ish heal :p_smile:


  • 0

#41 PervySageMarty

PervySageMarty

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 3956 posts
  • LocationUnderground like a wild potato
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 09 March 2017 - 04:27 AM

I think its understandable why they left it so. If they did increase the heal formula it would also mean a heal upgrade for the crusader and monk line in which they are supposedly meant to be minor healers (or for current crusadets, dont even pick it up at all) and increasing heals effectiveness can really bring out the worst buff out of these two classes.

In my own opinion although i have the skill and use if very often, offertorium is a complete joke, at maximum its a mere 2.5x incrase to your heal, but you must sacrifice 4 times the amount of sp per heal, thats 120 SP per heal if there is no SP use increasing gears on you! And if i am not wrong and looking with closed eyes on kRO, this skills sp usage increase is suppose to only effect your healing skills, not effect all skills, but i could always be retardedly wrong. I'm looking at ways to incorporate Spiritual Thrift into the grand scheme of things but every skill build looks so hybrid its just making me laugh......

Anyways ill try see how far i can go. Maybe a new heal can be reached.
  • 0

#42 PervySageMarty

PervySageMarty

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 3956 posts
  • LocationUnderground like a wild potato
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 10 March 2017 - 04:56 AM

You know, if healing is truely such a huge arse issue, which to me it is of course, we should just get a custom hat made that increases healing and potion pitcher (because to be fair......) by 2000% when its upgraded to +9 or something................I'll send in an email to the Gravity suggestions site and see if they might take my idea on board, I cannot see Camp doing this for us.


  • 0

#43 PervySageMarty

PervySageMarty

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 3956 posts
  • LocationUnderground like a wild potato
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 11 March 2017 - 12:52 PM

So I have done a Coluseo Heal party yesterday. With just buffs, Primo VIP buffs and a level 1 Symphony of Lovers from a maxed out Wanderer, wearing the same gears but replacing my glorious cure wand with a +14 Recovery Light, on Offertorium I was healing the full 12 man party at 16k per pop, minus one person wearing a Ygg Crown, not sure about the upgrade level of it, but it was healing him for 18k instead. Although this is not the heal skill, at least we can say i have stretched just barely into the 18k healing zone. Maybe a proper heal test with a Isia rune RK might prove even more so.

 

I Hope you all stay tuned for more.


  • 0

#44 Casval17

Casval17

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1376 posts
  • LocationAxis Debris
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos Renewal

Posted 11 March 2017 - 07:52 PM

Marty, as one of master in arts of healing and soothing both physically and mentally

 

can you teach me how to soothe damsel in distress ?  :p_laugh: 


  • 0

#45 Scuba

Scuba

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 3225 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 11 March 2017 - 09:27 PM

Hmm I wonder how much you could aid condensed potion for.


  • 0

#46 allygator1

allygator1

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 232 posts
  • Playing:Nothing

Posted 11 March 2017 - 09:30 PM

So I have done a Coluseo Heal party yesterday. With just buffs, Primo VIP buffs and a level 1 Symphony of Lovers from a maxed out Wanderer, wearing the same gears but replacing my glorious cure wand with a +14 Recovery Light, on Offertorium I was healing the full 12 man party at 16k per pop, minus one person wearing a Ygg Crown, not sure about the upgrade level of it, but it was healing him for 18k instead. Although this is not the heal skill, at least we can say i have stretched just barely into the 18k healing zone. Maybe a proper heal test with a Isia rune RK might prove even more so.

 

I Hope you all stay tuned for more.

I thought lover's symphony is only for Mdef?  Did you mean moonlight serenade instead?


  • 0

#47 cattypurry

cattypurry

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 264 posts
  • LocationGeffen Road
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 11 March 2017 - 09:33 PM

I wonder if Marty was referring to our party yesterday. If so then it's a level 1 Moonlight Serenade and my wandy is not maxed  :ani_meow: 


  • 0

#48 gabuie

gabuie

    Amateur Blogger

  • Members
  • 419 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Not classic

Posted 11 March 2017 - 09:36 PM

one day i'll hit 16k... *sobs*


  • 0

#49 PervySageMarty

PervySageMarty

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 3956 posts
  • LocationUnderground like a wild potato
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 12 March 2017 - 12:39 AM


I wonder if Marty was referring to our party yesterday. If so then it's a level 1 Moonlight Serenade and my wandy is not maxed :ani_meow:

but then who has the piss yellow aura then????
  • 0

#50 4853121207141913140

4853121207141913140

    Awarded #1 Troll

  • Members
  • 895 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Renewal

Posted 12 March 2017 - 08:49 PM

how much sp did that cost @_@

{ [ 240 + 168 + ( 30% + 30% + 20% - ~60%)]} x 200% ?


Edited by 4853121207141913140, 12 March 2017 - 08:51 PM.

  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users