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#1 BlackMeow

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 01:14 AM

I had a hard time dealing with Royal Guards and Kageros  

 

1. how do you kill an RG with reflect and defender on without using oblivion curse? I always die because of the reflect and low damage of CRS because of the defender

 

2. how do you kill a magic type kagero with cicada skin shed always on? I killed him once with soul destroyer. 30k at first try, then he equiped some resists. it went down to 15k. his magic damage was always one-hitting me. 

 

 

3. how to outsmart Manhole - Shadow Form - blast mine SCs

 

any advice and suggestions fellow gxs?


Edited by BlackMeow, 22 November 2016 - 10:36 PM.

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 01:25 AM

2. Use Bryn
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Posted 21 November 2016 - 03:45 AM

2. Use Bryn

 

i know bryn is a god item but how does that help? i'm not familiar with the item's bonuses. only the atk/matk+% and cannot be knocked back. 


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 04:01 AM

If the attacker uses bryn the ninja wont be knocked back by cicada. You can also try to stun them since lvl difference nulifies stat baed immunities
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Posted 21 November 2016 - 06:33 AM

woah. i didn't know bryn had that kind of effect. does RSX card also has that effect? also, what's  the max level a kagero can achieve?


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 07:17 AM

afaik what attacker wear should not affect kagero's cicada knock back.

instead its what kagero is wearing that affects it.


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 09:07 AM

It does affect, ppl use it againts my oboro :v

Expanded classes reach a maximum of 160 now. Their status immunity through stats againts other player wont work unless they were at least 165.
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Posted 21 November 2016 - 09:43 AM

If the attacker uses bryn the ninja wont be knocked back by cicada. You can also try to stun them since lvl difference nulifies stat baed immunities

what? i thought its the other way around?? the user of bryn should be the one who wont be knocked back? not his target enemy. unless it was already changed? aww

 

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RG: well u have to possess a high hp pool to tank reflect lol; use crit and try to spam pots; make him vulnerable by trying to inflict various status effects to him (freeze, coldmode, etc), or lure him to a trap, it depends on HOW ur going to do it but u should try. So basically you should wait for him to turn off his defender and take this chance as an opportunity, either inflict a status( freeze him or what ever u have got for him to be vulnerable to long range attack CRS or if u can inflict high damage CRS with just 1 roll then great.

 

Kagerou: Equip sropho or frost and some redux Cranial shield + [4] status cards knife preferably sropho or SK or marina or whatever u can think of, make use of the opportunity, disable his Cicada and Mirror Image by hitting him and when he's vulnerable to attacks. Go for the kill. Dealing with ninjas isnt hard, just tedious.


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 10:22 AM

Bryn prevents knockback on the user, but disables Cicada jump as well if you attack wearing it.

Sropho is disabled on iRO.


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 06:53 PM

afaik what attacker wear should not affect kagero's cicada knock back.

instead its what kagero is wearing that affects it.

 

this is also what i had in mind.

 

i don't have a bryn so i can't test it. i also can't find any video to prove what ash is claiming. i want to believe ash because he's reliable but somewhere in my mind, i still want proofs. :heh:


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 06:55 PM

what? i thought its the other way around?? the user of bryn should be the one who wont be knocked back? not his target enemy. unless it was already changed? aww

 

@ontopic

 

RG: well u have to possess a high hp pool to tank reflect lol; use crit and try to spam pots; make him vulnerable by trying to inflict various status effects to him (freeze, coldmode, etc), or lure him to a trap, it depends on HOW ur going to do it but u should try. So basically you should wait for him to turn off his defender and take this chance as an opportunity, either inflict a status( freeze him or what ever u have got for him to be vulnerable to long range attack CRS or if u can inflict high damage CRS with just 1 roll then great.

 

Kagerou: Equip sropho or frost and some redux Cranial shield + [4] status cards knife preferably sropho or SK or marina or whatever u can think of, make use of the opportunity, disable his Cicada and Mirror Image by hitting him and when he's vulnerable to attacks. Go for the kill. Dealing with ninjas isnt hard, just tedious.

 

but its hard to deal with ninjas if their magic attacks 1 hits you. :heh:


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 07:00 PM

GX's cant use heal. so GX vs AB in healing, obviously AB wins.


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Posted 22 November 2016 - 01:24 AM

but its hard to deal with ninjas if their magic attacks 1 hits you. :heh:


Use Maya and +10 Frus carded fire armor :v
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Posted 22 November 2016 - 01:45 AM

Use Maya and +10 Frus carded fire armor :v

 

OH MY GOD!!!! ASH YOU'RE LIKE THE STEPHEN HAWKING OF RAGNAROK OMG THANKS FOR THIS! 


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Posted 22 November 2016 - 01:57 AM

+ any footgear with cat of nine tails card, put maya card on +9 magic reflector
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Posted 22 November 2016 - 01:58 AM

I'm teaching ppl how to counter me on pvp qq
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Posted 22 November 2016 - 02:23 AM

I'm teaching ppl how to counter me on pvp qq

sad life haaaayyy???
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Posted 22 November 2016 - 02:28 AM

@fuyu i'm too poor for a maya card. :heh:


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Posted 22 November 2016 - 02:31 AM

well since we're done on magic type ninjas, mind sharing me some tips on how to kill an RG with reflect and defender? 


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Posted 22 November 2016 - 10:35 PM

edited first post 


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Posted 22 November 2016 - 11:25 PM

oblivion curse -> Drill katar [without EDP]-> GBR [ofc with EDP] RC then CRS


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Posted 25 November 2016 - 06:24 AM

3.) If you're the CRS type you just have to stay mobile and backslide accurately, wait for an opening then CRS.

 

 


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Posted 27 November 2016 - 07:16 PM

oblivion curse -> Drill katar [without EDP]-> GBR [ofc with EDP] RC then CRS


What class are you going with this?
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Posted 27 November 2016 - 07:36 PM

1. If you can't kill an RG, without poison, improve your item set. That's a physically defensive class, toe-to-toe fighting with a shielded class without you having one is hard. Bring more pots.

 

2. You can bring different converters for your Soul Destroyer.

 

3. If you got manholed, press esc button and click the character select screen BEFORE he uses SF and steps on his/her mines. A not-so-clean approach, well at least he can't kill you.


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Posted 27 November 2016 - 07:41 PM

1. If you can't kill an RG, without poison, improve your item set. That's a physically defensive class, toe-to-toe fighting with a shielded class without you having one is hard. Bring more pots.

2. You can bring different converters for your Soul Destroyer.

3. If you got manholed, press esc button and click the character select screen BEFORE he uses SF and steps on his/her mines. A not-so-clean approach, well at least he can't kill you.


1. Thats exactly what im thinking. But im too poor. Hahaha. Maybe i should save up for a tao.

2. Already used 8 elements. (Neutral shadow holy poison earth fire water wind). Still 15k SD with +14 gbr. :heh:

3. Woah! Didnt know you can cc when you got manholed. Thanks for this.
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