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#26 Xellie

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 12:17 PM

15%*6 you mean


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 12:41 PM

Actually, the chance for platinum shield to proc when 6 targets are hit is 62.285%


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 12:48 PM

So squirrel, what's the correct activation rate to set in the script for it to be 15% with 6 targets?


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 12:58 PM

(1-x)^6 = .85


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 01:08 PM

there you go

 

Campitor, set platinum shield activation to 0.85

 

(please reply so I can respond with "Make it so")


Edited by Xellie, 08 December 2016 - 01:14 PM.

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 01:13 PM

85%, that will do very well.


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#32 Xellie

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Posted 08 December 2016 - 01:15 PM

happy days for LKs

 

Do you know the struggle of installing this game fresh? I should be streaming this lolol


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 03:04 PM

Might want to balance it around 4 proc chances.  So the proc rate of 150 in the script --> 40, would give 15% w/ 4 targets.  That still gives a soloist a pretty large chance to proc it off of a full single Stormgust cast.  If all of the sac targets gain the magic mirror effect when it is procced though, it is still getting a big boost from sac mechanics.


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 03:10 PM

Fixing the effect being distributed through Sac>>> nerfing the shield. Lol
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Posted 09 December 2016 - 04:18 AM

I am a sorcerer. When i used magic on my enemy, the magic reflect has high chance and the magic reflect is not included in the sacrifice skill from RG's. This shield is really OP.


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:25 AM

Why not just remove the ability of Paladin to use Platinum Shield? 


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 11:32 AM

It's been this way forever, not sure why people want it changed all of a sudden.


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 12:07 PM

Because it prolly caused some great rekt in a woe or something, otherwise no one would give a -_-.
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Posted 09 December 2016 - 01:05 PM

Because it prolly caused some great rekt in a woe or something, otherwise no one would give a -_-.


Actually it's the winners talking
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Posted 09 December 2016 - 01:09 PM

doesn't changes the fact that it happened, otherwise ppl wouldnt give a single -_-


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 01:14 PM

doesn't changes the fact that it happened, otherwise ppl wouldnt give a single -_-

 

Actually it's because it doesn't work that way on other servers and people are fed up of classic having crazy mechanics.

 

For example reflect being calced before WoE reduction, etc. There's a lot of things wrong with Classic.

 

I do not believe my guildmate brought this up because of losing.

 

It's because we want other guilds to be able to do better. 

 

Even if plat shield is nerfed, kaite is still a thing (which works in CP, unlike PS). It's also not a new thing to complain about. Other servers have it set to 1.5% so why don't we? 


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:02 PM

doesn't changes the fact that it happened, otherwise ppl wouldnt give a single -_-

 

Yeah, makes a lot of sense. I don't think things should be changed just because people get flustered.


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:26 PM

 Other servers have it set to 1.5% so why don't we? 

It's 15% on others as well, and i guess it's intented.



(btw, for NPC skills type of proc, if you are checking the script, it is Value/1000, not value/10000. So 150/1000 makes it 15% correctly)


Edited by Ashuckel, 09 December 2016 - 02:31 PM.

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#44 Xellie

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:42 PM

That's not why... that part is already known.


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Posted 09 December 2016 - 07:29 PM

I think 15% is intended.


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#46 AngrySam

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 09:19 PM

I doubt the platinum shield x 6 is intended though
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Posted 10 December 2016 - 04:25 AM

It is intended, though.

As a matter of fact Orlean's Shield, Maya, Frus and Cat'O Nine Tails cards also share this feature and I have never met anybody that cared about that 6x 50~80% chance to reflect JT, let alone complain.

 

Most of the Maya Cards are just left to rust in storage.


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Posted 17 December 2016 - 05:17 PM

Well at least reflection from single target spells like from maya card can be countered (with GTB). Platinum shields are much more available and around than maya cards. Also I don't believe the staff will do anything about it, not really complaining, just showing my point and how broken it is because it procs from sac targets
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Posted 17 December 2016 - 06:59 PM

> single target spells

> woe

 

This is why the server needs to 3:1 Valhalla. Goodness. 


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Posted 18 December 2016 - 11:06 AM

> single target spells

> woe

 

This is why the server needs to 3:1 Valhalla. Goodness. 

 

what are you talking about?


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