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#1 KingZero2016

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 07:56 AM

hi! 

 

good day! I currently have sc[kk]+TSODspell4/4 both at +9. 

After reading through I decided that I'll ditch my KK sc, but what should I replace it with?

 

-should I stick with SC+TSOD combo with a different card (can only afford 1SC tho)?

-or go with OBMH with a crimson weapon

    -which one is better, rod or staff?

 

thank you!

 

 


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 10:16 AM

For most cases, Skull Cap + TSoD > OBMH + Crimson Rod. For High MDEF monsters from the Brute, Undead, Formless and Demon races, the OBMH + Crison Rod > SC+TSoD.

 

If you don't need a shield, OBMH + SoD >> SC+TSoD.

 

You'll need multiple hats, though. Ideally one with Red Lichtern, one with Yellow Lichtern and one with Tikbalang. These cards also go nicely in mid headgears, if you can afford them all.

 

EDIT: This is for Warlocks only. For Sorcerers it may differ, because they don't have Recognized Spell, nor MA, so there's little difference if the MATK comes from Weapon or Equip, and Crimson Rods/Staves have very high Equip MATK (if highly upgraded, of course) and very low Weapon MATK.


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 10:22 AM

RWC Pin+Crimson Rod> Skull Cap+TSOD


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 11:42 AM

Yeyy! Than you for your inputs sir kusanagisama! :)
And yeah, im playing warlock.
-um what is MA?
lol sorry for my noobness.

RWC Pin+Crimson Rod> Skull Cap+TSOD
*checking ragial price*
Thank you sir ash
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 12:04 PM

High refined ofc '-'

Rwc pin is specially good to use with an unslotted pendant, if you happen to have one, as it will give extra 1% matk per 2 upgrades on the hat.

Or just stick to OBMH, it still gives a respectable amount of matk% and dmg on your skills(exept Chain Lightning wich is not working)
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 12:07 PM

High refined ofc '-'

Rwc pin is specially good to use with an unslotted pendant, if you happen to have one, as it will give extra 1% matk per 2 upgrades on the hat.

Or just stick to OBMH, it still gives a respectable amount of matk% and dmg on your skills(exept Chain Lightning wich is not working)

 

Though you'd lose one Elvira for this one.

 

But, hey, at +12 the RWC Pin will give +5% MATK, right? At +7 the Skull Cap will give you +8% MATK. '-' What am I missing?


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 12:13 PM

14% matk

The description is pretty bad.

And Elvira would only matter for when using CL/SE. You can have a pair with Elviras and an unslotted pendant just in case(i have it for oboro but w/e)
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 02:35 PM

High refined ofc '-'

Rwc pin is specially good to use with an unslotted pendant, if you happen to have one, as it will give extra 1% matk per 2 upgrades on the hat.

Or just stick to OBMH, it still gives a respectable amount of matk% and dmg on your skills(exept Chain Lightning wich is not working)

noted sir! thank you!

I think I have one(but carded it with scaraba so I buried it in oblivion in my storage)

 

 

Though you'd lose one Elvira for this one.

 

But, hey, at +12 the RWC Pin will give +5% MATK, right? At +7 the Skull Cap will give you +8% MATK. '-' What am I missing?

Are there any "cheaper" substitute for Elvira's? or is it the way to go? :D

<*logs in on gx to farm OCA's and PoH's*>


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 02:40 PM

noted sir! thank you!

I think I have one(but carded it with scaraba so I buried it in oblivion in my storage)

 

 

Are there any "cheaper" substitute for Elvira's? or is it the way to go? :D

<*logs in on gx to farm OCA's and PoH's*>

 

For the ghost damage part: Telekinetic Orb.

Very cheap, nowhere near as powerful though.


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 07:01 PM

2 tele is like one elvira (not taking into count the fact that probably th accesories you put elviras also increase your overall dmg)


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 03:50 AM

As Marrietta once said to Yggdra:

"I commend your decision. To part with what you have relied so much upon...That is not a decision undertaken lightly. Your courage is a shining example of your kind."

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#12 Kusanagisama

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 04:05 AM

Marty has been so reserved lately... no hentai doujin recomendations, no "my arse" jokes... Maybe he's become one of the new VMods to get close to Cinnamon? XD


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 09:12 AM

As Marrietta once said to Yggdra:

"I commend your decision. To part with what you have relied so much upon...That is not a decision undertaken lightly. Your courage is a shining example of your kind."

 

Marietta?

Yggdra?


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 11:36 AM

The point is your moving away from KK card!!


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Posted 30 November 2016 - 05:01 AM

lol
Yeah I hope I can sell this fast so I can get new gear.


Side question:
Ive read somewhere WL's can do the bako intance, is it really doable without having some "stuff"?
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Posted 30 November 2016 - 05:50 AM

Yes, Bakonawa is really easy on WL.

There also are quite a few youtube videos showing how to do it.


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Posted 30 November 2016 - 08:21 AM

lol
Yeah I hope I can sell this fast so I can get new gear.


Side question:
Ive read somewhere WL's can do the bako intance, is it really doable without having some "stuff"?

 

Go to Mora and get:

 

1 Crimson Robe

1 Crimson Shoes

2 Crimson Orbs

 

This will reduce the damage from Meteor Storm to 32.5%.

 

If you have a Jakk Card in a Hood[1], the reduction will be to 12.5%. If you add a Valk Shield to the mix, there will be only 2.5% fire damage left. Now, take your time and fry him with electricity. When he tries to devour the Moon, you can burn the instruments to a crisp with Hell Inferno, then procceed to finish him, but keep your distance, because when he's enraged, if you get close enough, he'll totally own you with a combo of Storm Gust and Lord of Vermilion. Happened to me a few times while I was learning. -_-


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Posted 30 November 2016 - 08:49 AM

Go to Mora and get:

 

1 Crimson Robe

1 Crimson Shoes

2 Crimson Orbs

 

This will reduce the damage from Meteor Storm to 32.5%.

 

If you have a Jakk Card in a Hood[1], the reduction will be to 12.5%. If you add a Valk Shield to the mix, there will be only 2.5% fire damage left. Now, take your time and fry him with electricity. When he tries to devour the Moon, you can burn the instruments to a crisp with Hell Inferno, then procceed to finish him, but keep your distance, because when he's enraged, if you get close enough, he'll totally own you with a combo of Storm Gust and Lord of Vermilion. Happened to me a few times while I was learning. -_-

 

You don't need the Crimson Robe. ;)

Crimson Show Shoe (15%) + 1 Crimson Orb (15%) + Jakk Card (30%) + Valk Shield (20%) + Fire Proof Pot (20%) = 100%

If you use a second Orb and a Jakk Nid Garb you can even swap the Valk Shield for something else or just not use a Proof Pot.


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Posted 30 November 2016 - 09:55 AM

I'd rather skip the Jakk Card. :P I don't feel confortable if my character has non wings. XD


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Posted 30 November 2016 - 09:57 AM

I just use The set above, plus a d agav carder armor because more matk, for garment i just use a random one with jakk, i think is a mithril cape or something and one Elvira acc for more dmg, you dont need thaaat much of gear to kill bako, i usually do it with a +7 thanatos staff lol
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Posted 30 November 2016 - 11:03 AM

Go to Mora and get:

 

1 Crimson Robe

1 Crimson Shoes

2 Crimson Orbs

 

This will reduce the damage from Meteor Storm to 32.5%.

 

If you have a Jakk Card in a Hood[1], the reduction will be to 12.5%. If you add a Valk Shield to the mix, there will be only 2.5% fire damage left. Now, take your time and fry him with electricity. When he tries to devour the Moon, you can burn the instruments to a crisp with Hell Inferno, then procceed to finish him, but keep your distance, because when he's enraged, if you get close enough, he'll totally own you with a combo of Storm Gust and Lord of Vermilion. Happened to me a few times while I was learning. -_-

so the crimson mora set will really be needed. I was planning on getting a set for scaraba but then I got lazy getting coins

 

You don't need the Crimson Robe. ;)

Crimson Show Shoe (15%) + 1 Crimson Orb (15%) + Jakk Card (30%) + Valk Shield (20%) + Fire Proof Pot (20%) = 100%

If you use a second Orb and a Jakk Nid Garb you can even swap the Valk Shield for something else or just not use a Proof Pot.

 

 

I just use The set above, plus a d agav carder armor because more matk, for garment i just use a random one with jakk, i think is a mithril cape or something and one Elvira acc for more dmg, you dont need thaaat much of gear to kill bako, i usually do it with a +7 thanatos staff lol

 

wow! this sounds easy enough. thank you mages! :D


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Posted 30 November 2016 - 11:05 AM

and by the way since noone wants to buy my SC[KK] yet I paired my obmh with TSOD. 

Happy with the numbers coming out from crimson rock on Scaraba

 

excuse my noobness, but how do you post images here?


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