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#1 ZeroTigress

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 02:03 PM

Since people are clueless about this update, let's air out what is currently known about this.

The guild warehouse was originally implemented in January of 2014.
 

Guild Warehouse update (with new feature: you can now give your member an access to guild storage by checking the box just like you give them power to invite/punish, Also they added Item Log) (Jan 21, 2014)


Here's what I could find.

http://ro.gnjoy.com/...q=147&curpage=2

From what I can understand, you have to level up the Guild Warehouse skill in order to increase the amount of storage slots. So at maximum, you can put in 500 different items in there (just 100 shy of our personal Kafra storage). It works basically the same way, you can deposit gears, consumables, etc. As for who can deposit and withdraw from the warehouse, that's just an extra option you can tick off in the positions management tab of your guild window. So anyone who has the guild title that allows warehouse access will be able to deposit and withdraw from the warehouse. And there will be an item log to track who has deposited or withdrawn which items to help keep inventory.


This is after the world map update and before the RODEX and Para Market updates, so very much out of order.

Other threads (which were only made this year so barely any previous pushes outside of Tiki threads):
https://forums.warpp...uild-pve-stuff/
https://forums.warpp...-guild-storage/

Pros:
  • Easily share items between guildmembers.
  • Item log to track who's been withdrawing and depositing what items into the warehouse. This helps to retrieve items stolen by unscrupulous guildmembers.
  • Access option in guild title customizations so only those with the proper guild title can access the warehouse.
  • Allows people to utilize the guild warehouse as extra storage if they made a personal guild for distributing items between different accounts.
Cons:
  • Accessible via guild warehouse NPCs (just like every other MMORPG's guild storage system).
  • No absolute control over who gets how many of a certain item.
  • Only 500 storage slots at most (100 less than personal storage).

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 03:07 PM

As I've said for months this should come first before rodex.
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 03:11 PM

As I've said for months this should come first before rodex.


kRO will do what they want, so all we can really do now is try to get people to push the CMs to push kRO for this update. RODEX came because there was more push for it from the community than there was for the guild warehouse and the recent debacle with the crimson weapons was the tipping point. I don't know what would be the final straw would have to be to get the guild warehouse implemented here, so this thread is for everyone to voice themselves to the CMs that this is an important update to have alongside RODEX.
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 03:15 PM

It needs to come asap. Forget woe issues. This is mainly helpful for pvm guilds to help out guild is more so than ever. I'm atill hoping for more updates but this should be one of the top layer updates to get
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 03:51 PM

Forget woe issues.


In before the triggered people!
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 04:40 PM

Let them be triggered lmao. Let pvm shine dangit ;)
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 05:15 PM

lol that was the topic i was talking about last time but most ppl are making negatives thinking......


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 06:56 PM

The guild storage update doesn't hurt anyone, or detract from anyone, unless there's some submarine clause with it that we don't know about, like the 99 mail limit of RODex.

 

It's not perfect, it would be nice if each member had their own much smaller personal storage that only them and the guild leader could access to solve the supplying problem. Even without that though, I can see this being really useful for a lot of guilds.

 

I'm all for it, but it doesn't solve the problems of RODex.


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 06:57 PM

let them be negative ninnies let the guild storage come


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 07:29 PM

If you have people in your guild that you don't trust with guild storage, why are they in your guild?
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 07:34 PM

Cause new guild members that you don't know that well yet?

 

Doesn't it have the option to check who can use it and who can't anyways?

 

Sounds good to me, we'll see it soon... in 2069!!!


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 07:39 PM

Cause new guild members that you don't know that well yet?
 
Doesn't it have the option to check who can use it and who can't anyways?


Then don't give those guild members the warehouse access title.
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 07:44 PM

It has a permission check box just like invite and expel, and has a history log for who has taken/put in, and how much they have.

 

To be perfectly honest, if I was still doing WoE TE, my guild's supply would have been handed out via guild storage. Put in an appropriate WoE's worth of supplies at a time (or put in partials at a time if you really don't trust your members enough for some reason).

 

If someone was to take more supplies than they could actually even use, it would be pretty obvious with the log. All guilds who supply their members already have guidelines on supply amounts anyways. Deal with those who want to abuse the storage.

 

If someone raids it and takes everything, either deal with the ticket system or just straight up kick them out. Personally, I'd rather take the lose (if support won't handle it) of whatever I put in the storage for supplies than to keep having an asshat who would consider doing that in my guild anyways.


Edited by Toxn, 28 November 2016 - 07:45 PM.

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 08:22 PM

What boggles me is that the guild warehouse came out 11 months BEFORE RODEX, so I don't understand why kRO has yet to give us the warehouse but willing to hand over RODEX first.
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Posted 28 November 2016 - 09:17 PM

All it takes is one person to join a guild with the intention of stealing supplies to join a guild and stay until they get access to storage (because they WILL eventually need supplies, so unless you're going to deal supplies to EVERY new member... which defeats the purpose... they'll need access eventually).

 

There are guilds out there (I'm thinking of one in particular in TE) that already stoop to the level of planting Scholars in the enemy guild to spell break recallers behind a precast safely.  I wouldn't put it past them to drop to the same scummy levels of planting a member just to pillage supplies.

 

Just logging supplies isn't enough to prevent scamming.  If you're think any guild is going to rely on the GMs stepping in to restore stolen goods, you clearly haven't dealt with the GMs' response time.  Maybe if it was made so any guild could make it so people could only see what's in storage, and would have to make requests for withdrawal.  Then the guild leader would be able to log in, and go through the list and either approve or disapprove.  THEN it would be a suitable replacement for supplying.

 

I want to make sure I'm clear.  I'm not against this guild storage system.  I'm just saying that it, combined with RODex (with it's currently known limits), is not a suitable replacement for the old mail system for supplying WoE guilds.


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Posted 01 December 2016 - 09:32 AM

Bump for CM update on when we're getting this.
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Posted 02 December 2016 - 08:30 AM

I.a.... ahem we all need guild storage asap
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Posted 02 December 2016 - 10:34 AM

I.a.... ahem we all need guild storage asap

I know why you need it :3 3:)


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 05:08 PM

Any clear updates on this other than "we might get it with Episode 16"?
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Posted 06 December 2016 - 06:01 PM

I hope it becomes a ninja update before 2017
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Posted 07 December 2016 - 02:04 AM

Is it just me or people just love to stop RODEX rather than support guild warehouse?(cmiiw)

I mean,there are only few who support it here and most just want to stop rodex in rodex thread

If you support this then lets press the update here
#SupportGuildWarehouse
#SaveRODEX
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Posted 07 December 2016 - 02:16 AM

No one wants to stop rodex, they just want it to not suck on our server.
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Posted 07 December 2016 - 06:34 AM

Sorry then,i changed it
#SupportGuildWarehouse
#FixRODEX
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Posted 07 December 2016 - 06:44 AM

Enemy plants in a guild are a dope strategy IMO. 

 

Guild warehouse is useful even if you don't trust 90% of your members, as you not only have extra storage for organization but you can have the few you do trust help out in distributing it. With ROdex, that won't be an issue since you can just mail out the supplies. 


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Posted 07 December 2016 - 06:49 AM

Enemy plants in a guild are a dope strategy IMO. 

 

Guild warehouse is useful even if you don't trust 90% of your members, as you not only have extra storage for organization but you can have the few you do trust help out in distributing it. With ROdex, that won't be an issue since you can just mail out the supplies. 


Damn, this point ! O:


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