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[Campitor]

Format 1

 

Item Restrictions

• None

Skill Restrictions

• All second class/trans class skills except the following.
  • Magnificat
  • Status Recovery
  • Basilica

Format 2 (Experimental)

 

Item Restrictions

• MVP Cards reduced by half power
• God Items reduced by half power

Format 3

Item Restrictions

• None

Skill Restrictions

• Guild Recall
• Marriage Recall
• Child Recall

Classic Restrictions

• Novice Only

 

 

 

[Xellie]

[thoughts]

 

I would like to remind you that some of the most powerful items in game are neither boss cards, nor god items.

Edited by Xellie, 30 November 2016 - 01:19 PM.

[Rayea]

Yay for event WOE! I have some idea.

 

 

Format 1

 

Item Restrictions

• None

Skill Restrictions

• All second class/trans class skills except the following.
  • Magnificat
  • Status Recovery
  • Basilica

 

 

 

 

Maybe just only block trans skill? Some first class doesn't have anything to use at all. Some class have all their first class skill on cards (smokie card, popo card, poison spore card). It makes it like non-trans WoE then but with not making new characters. 

 

 

 

Format 2 (Experimental)

 

Item Restrictions

• MVP Cards reduced by half power
• God Items reduced by half power

 

 

 

This seem fun. But how is half power of some things? Brysingamen and Sliepnir are already bad.

 

 

 

Format 3

Item Restrictions

• None

Skill Restrictions

• Guild Recall
• Marriage Recall
• Child Recall

Classic Restrictions

• Novice Only

 

 

How about novice, baby and first class only! 

 

 

Other fun might be to make rent god item and mvp item so everyone has them for one woe or turn off alliance or mega woe in one castle only. 

Edited by Rayea, 30 November 2016 - 11:31 AM.

[ClickyHpen]

option 1 tweaked for nontrans woe instead of no second classes OR option 2 yesssss

[zerowon]

I like option 2 but what about gtb as there is no half power ?

[needmorezleep]

half power could be something like increase all damage taken by 100% along with immunity to magic for gtb

[Xandyzor]

A non-Trans Woe and without Gods and MVP.

[cakcuk]

I agreed with xandyzor A non-Trans Woe and without Gods and MVP. more challenging and fun

[Xellie]

hope you like unfrozen ghost

[Xandyzor]

hope you like unfrozen ghost

 

Post your suggest.

[Xellie]

Post your suggest.

 

I PMed campitor my ideas since the whole server will get mad at my suggestions.... you know "controlling the server" and all that bs. I'm not allowed to have ideas, remember?

 

anyway, hope you like unfrozen ghost users. Maybe you'll realize mvps and gods aren't the problem.

Edited by Xellie, 01 December 2016 - 08:22 AM.

[bloodsinarmy]

no mvp/god and mini boss woe pls

[Xellie]

no miniboss WoE is gross, it'll be dominated by the oversupply problem

[bloodsinarmy]

care to elaborate?

[Xellie]

I have 7k ygg seeds and 12k berries and 9 storages full of stems and spores. Shall we discuss that?

 

#notevenbotting

Edited by Xellie, 01 December 2016 - 08:36 AM.

[bloodsinarmy]

And..? how is that any different from the status quo? Mid rate pservers as well as woe pserver have limitless supplies with 0 weight and @restock functions which generates more woe players than classic could ever imagine at this point.

 

Not an argument sorry. Try again.

[Xellie]

reasons I don't play pservers

 

 - everything you just said minus player count.

 

 

Different people like different things and I think the other guilds might not have fun vs infinity supplies. Please remember that the people who ask for that stuff are highly experienced gvg fanatics 75% of the time and will roll over the remaining classic guilds with ease. That's why guilds that have less gvg experience need their GRs/DRs to deal with it.

 

Also EMH is a thing.

 

[bloodsinarmy]

At the present time guilds on classic are not concerned with supplies being a factor for woe to be "fun". Where did you get this inane idea? 

[Xellie]

At the present time guilds on classic are not concerned with supplies being a factor for woe to be "fun". Where did you get this inane idea? 

 

idk, from the people who think that people who don't play shouldn't be entitled to jump in once a month and ruin the server without playing? Crazy idea I know, like building community and playing outside of WoE. Maybe I let almost every guild in the server hop in mine for supply help, maybe I talk to a lot of players.... It's pretty weird.

 

Now think about what I just said about the difference in competition levels. We all know what will happen. The gvg fanatics that play WoE 25/8 on other servers will hop in, all supplied by one or two guys and then run over the guilds that only play iRO, abusing  their lack of experience, call them bad, be rude and extremely BM and vanish till the next WoE. Most guilds don't have one or two dedicated suppliers. They play and thus they have a cap.... where as the people I'm thinking of... just have infinity things and no qualms about spamming ygg and bomb for 2 hours.

 

 

....... it happens every time without fail.

 

if it was up to me I'd just disable the meteo plate script (to disable unfrozen ghost) so that those less experienced guilds can use their stuff. I'd also disable renewal gear, like EMH, VOH and LFH.

 

Assuming that is, that an actual fight is desired during these WoEs.

Edited by Xellie, 01 December 2016 - 09:02 AM.

[bloodsinarmy]

Again where's your argument that an over supply of mats will have a negative effect a no god mvp/mini boss woe?

[Xandyzor]

None-Trans without Soul Link too.

 

Without:

 

 - Godlys

 - MVP Cards

 - Evil Machine Hat

 - Moon Rabbit

 - Skull Cap

 - BG Weapon/Gears/Consumables

 

 - Yggdrasil and Seeds

 - Fodd +10

 - Party Buffs

 - Mental Potion

 - Mega Potion Resist

 - Speed Potion

 - Kafra Card (Non-restock in GvG)

 

 - Homunculus too.

 

Like a old old server without some "news" stuffs after Trans show up.

 

[Xellie]

 

None-Trans without Soul Link too.

 

Without:

 

 - Godlys

 - MVP Cards

 - Evil Machine Hat

 - Moon Rabbit

 - Skull Cap

- Little feather hat

- Meteo plate

 - BG Weapon/Gears/Consumables

 

 - Yggdrasil and Seeds

 - Fodd +10

 - Party Buffs

 - Mental Potion

 - Mega Potion Resist

 - Speed Potion

 - Kafra Card (Non-restock in GvG)

- Amp scroll

 

 - Homunculus too.

 

Like a old old server without some "news" stuffs after Trans show up.

 

 

Good list!

 

I think link is fine (they can't get rid of it because you can link on the same zone server) kaite and kaupe are more of a problem. Sonic blow is bad without EDP but shield boom is fun with link! Priest with holy light hehehehe. Funny?

 

Don't forget little feather hat. That adds megingjard-like damage. Also meteo plate so no unfrozen ghost.

 

BG equip prob okay? some class like Wizard need it for anti stun.

 

They can't get rid of mental potion, food or mega resist, you can just use those things before entering. I added amp scroll.

 

Partybuff maybe ok? It helps for guilds with less player to compete with guilds with more player.

 

Nothing wrong with homunc.

Edited by Xellie, 01 December 2016 - 09:21 AM.

[Xandyzor]

Good list!

 

I think link is fine (they can't get rid of it because you can link on the same zone server) kaite and kaupe are more of a problem. Sonic blow is bad without EDP but shield boom is fun with link! Priest with holy light hehehehe. Funny?

 

Don't forget little feather hat. That adds megingjard-like damage. Also meteo plate so no unfrozen ghost.

 

BG equip prob okay? some class like Wizard need it for anti stun.

 

They can't get rid of mental potion, food or mega resist, you can just use those things before entering.

 

Partybuff maybe ok? It helps for guilds with less player to compete with guilds with more player.

 

Nothing wrong with homunc.

 

 - Soul Link: Agree.

 - Without Little Feather Hat: put on list.

 - BG: The Mace/Spear/Sword gives more dmg then Hydra/SW and none-trans dont have so much hp. Infinite Blue Potion too.

 

 - Mental / Mega Resis / Food maybe a "dispell effect" when you pass the portal.

 

 - Homunculus is not Human so give 3x more dmg with BG Set.

[Xandyzor]

No-Trans WoE

 

Without:

 

 - Godlys

 - MVP Cards

 - Evil Machine Hat

 - Moon Rabbit

 - Skull Cap

 - BG Weapon/Consumables (Only)

 - Little feather hat

 - Meteo plate (Non-Trans-Trans cant use it))

 

 - Yggdrasil and Seeds

 - Fodd +10

 - Party Buffs

 - Mental Potion

 - Mega Potion Resist

 - Speed Potion

 - Kafra Card (Non-restock in GvG)

 - Amp Scroll

 

 - Homunculus

 

Like a old old server without some "news" stuffs after Trans show up.

 

 

 

[Xellie]

 - Soul Link: Agree.

 - Without Little Feather Hat: put on list.

 - BG: The Mace/Spear/Sword gives more dmg then Hydra/SW and none-trans dont have so much hp. Infinite Blue Potion too.

 

 - Mental / Mega Resis / Food maybe a "dispell effect" when you pass the portal.

 

 - Homunculus is not Human so give 3x more dmg with BG Set.

 

What if they reduce the weapon % to match normal weapon?

BG consumables can go away. They're dumb. infinity blues are dumb.

 

They can't dispell those items from what I understand. They stay no matter what

 

Homunc - Homunc can't use unfrozen either so they're very easy to kill. Same with mercenary.

 

If they do Trans class but with trans skill disabled, it will be kind of like a non-trans woe, without people needing to make new characters. I like this idea a lot!