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#26 Hissis

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 06:33 AM

I agree with the TS, these imbalanced items are actually the reason why WOE is dying and why people no longer wants to participate..  :p_sad:

 

When i say this,people say i'm crying and this is a ''meta change''

 

I love that idea of CASH SHOP changing the '''META''

 

disable it on PVP/WoE

 

They are not going to do that ...

 

Yes, not a single WoE has happened since these items were released, but they're still totally the reason why WoE is dying. Legit.

 

WoE is already dead,this ring is just going to kill it a little bit more.


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#27 ChakriGuard

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 06:40 AM

WoE is dead has nothing to do with these new gears. These new jRO gears just arrived and I believe they have not been tested in WoE yet. Why would anyone care anyway?
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Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:00 AM

Just ask for the crystallization update. Then people can have their sropho card back too
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Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:04 AM

Just ask for the crystallization update. Then people can have their sropho card back too

been asking for this update every now and then in tiki's so we have an additional status to play with. hope really they give the update next month


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#30 ChakriGuard

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:10 AM

When they bring this very update to enable sropho card again, more commoners might start to do WoE while some so-called elites might quit WoE instead jajaja
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#31 Hissis

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:13 AM

Something is really fun,they disabled sropho card due to the crystallization spam but 2 years later they just implement a ring to spam cristallization.

 

qpzTSQL.jpg


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:21 AM

Fire DB(burning) removes crystalization :v
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Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:28 AM

Something is really fun,they disabled sropho card due to the crystallization spam but 2 years later they just implement a ring to spam cristallization.

 

qpzTSQL.jpg

 

^ this haha..

 

do not compare the skills of other job to this topic.. because Diamond dust by default has its own delay.. and it was removed by an ITEM.. while the skills you are referring to, like the masq and the likes are there by default meaning it was really meant to do that way.. and besides if you are masked you can still run.. 

 

Camps.. this topic really needs your attention.... hope you can consider.. if there is no plans on disabling this item then might as well enable the effects of Soropho..


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 10:44 AM

I dont think this is too OP, well is it, but i mean this item is limit to Sorcerer class and SC (and i happy SC finally have a decent gear to use outside WoE gears...) is not like Penetration set where everyone can use and doing PvM a -_- in just 1 day or Unfrozen set (and cheaters...) that already kill the WoE , WoE scene is already dead so dont blame the ring for that (hell even still no one WoE happening to use and already doing those stupid comments lol)

 

And a thing more, dont try to use "balance" word when you are playing Ragnarok, since trans class update this word loss a lot of sense and renewal destroy any meaning.

 

About Crystallization

 

To assist in recovering from this ailment:

  • Warmer removes this ailment.
  • Target VIT.
  • Every single Fire Element attack. (a very stupid example but at same time a little useful tip Bomb skill work on any ally too, you cant use on top any ally/enemy, but can use in the area where the Diamond are casting to walk without any problem if you have on FCP)
  • Lauda Agnus removes this ailment.
  • Magnetic Earth
  • Hover (Mechanic skill for himself sadly i hear this skill dont work properly in iRO, lel i have 9 mechanics and still dont test that skill how stupid...)
  • Clearance
  • Decrease SP to 0
  • GTB Card

 

And i pretty sure there are more skills and forms to save you from that skill / effect, so, just leave the ring as is it, and not, i not a sorcerer player and i dont want to play that class anymore (well maybe, but for spell fist build only sounds a lot of fun even if not the best one)

 

Edit: I was thinking so much stupid drama and cry for this and make me thing you guys never play before renewal? i mean this skill is a joke is you compare with Dazzler (screen area vs that -_- 9x9 area...) in pre-renewal that skill was a pain in the ass, Gypsy+Clown / Minstrel hell no matter how many resistance to stun you will put in yourself was 50% sure you die or at least half of your guild die in less than 5 secs, right now there are a lot of ways to make immunity to stun but before was to focus those class...


Edited by Amongluttony, 24 December 2016 - 11:02 AM.

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#35 Orthogon

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 11:00 AM

Two rings should reduce cooldown by 4 seconds, but cooldown on Diamond Dust is 5 seconds (per wiki), so this should leave you with a 1 second cooldown. If it's actually reducing cooldown to 0, description on ring isn't accurate or wiki info on cooldown for DD is wrong.


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#36 mildcontempt

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 11:19 AM

It's only 1 second with 2 rings, causing the cool down to match aftercast delay but to still be there.

 

Also, 9 mechanics? Lordy. 


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 11:24 AM

It's only 1 second with 2 rings, causing the cool down to match aftercast delay but to still be there.

 

Right, that's different than what the original post describes, just thinking this discussion is based on a false premise.


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#38 mildcontempt

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 11:30 AM

They would be incorrect. Literally just tested it, even with top tier magic strings removing the aftercast delay, there is still a 1 second cool down that will stop aspd based spam. 


Edited by mildcontempt, 24 December 2016 - 11:35 AM.

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#39 Tofu

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 11:33 AM

The OP said "continuously", which probably means something very different to him than it means to everyone else. To me, "continuously" would mean it was reduced to 0 cooldown, so it could be spammed at Dragon Breath speeds. OP probably meant "continuously" to mean "very fast". Yes, once per second is "very fast" compared to what it used to be. But its not nearly as fast as it makes it sound.

 

But yes, it still has a 1 second cooldown, even with 2 rings equipped.


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 11:54 AM

Sorcerer Shadow Weapon

Reduce cooldown of Diamond Dust by 1 second.
Further reduce cooldown of Diamond Dust by 0.3 second per 1 refine rate.



Sorcerer Shadow Shield

Reduce cooldown of Earth Grave by 1 second.
Further reduce cooldown of Earth Grave by 0.3 second per 1 refine rate.

[Sorcerer Shadow Shield + Sorcerer Shadow Weapon]

Increase damage of Diamond Dust and Earth Grave by 20%


I think that ring has a best synergy with sorcer shadow set. ^_^

Edited by Sigma1, 24 December 2016 - 11:55 AM.

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#41 mildcontempt

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 11:58 AM

Heh, one ring and one +7 sorcerer shadow weapon and you're good to go with full cooldown reduction. Just need strings to spam at ASPD. 


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 02:37 PM

now that is what I call a support class! right? right? ... /swt


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 02:55 PM

That's the new iRO meta, buy your way to the top.

 

+1 for slots in them rings.


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#44 Hissis

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 03:27 PM

That's the new iRO meta, buy your way to the top.

 

+1 for slots in them rings.

 

That's what meta means,right? hhahahahahhahahaha


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#45 Azumatsu

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 03:51 PM

collaboration between JRO and KRO gear, sorc can spam like DB RK/gene/GX

 

yes please, that actually pretty interesting idea  :p_laugh:

 

bring it on


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#46 Boyeteers

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 03:52 PM

The ring can't be altered it's effects since the item itself can be purchased as a box via $ iRL. Altering the effect of the said item will have them accused of scamming. rofl


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 04:09 PM

Why don't you guys test is yourself? We've witness how that ring works last WoE in thor.. Even without bragi DD can be chained continuously if you are wearing 2 rings at the same time (FYI to the TS), this is a different story for DB since you can still use skills and run.. while crystallization puts you into perfectly immobilized state.

 

I'll be making a ticket inquiry to the support group to know their insight about this item..Whatever results they give will be accepted 100%..

 

PS. We are not requesting to nerf the ring's effect, what we are suggesting is to at least do not allow 2 ring's effect to stack


Edited by PaulEdward, 24 December 2016 - 04:17 PM.

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#48 RaveMaster

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 04:11 PM

good luck


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 04:15 PM

good luck

 

Thank you


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Posted 24 December 2016 - 04:16 PM

The ring can't be altered it's effects since the item itself can be purchased as a box via $ iRL. Altering the effect of the said item will have them accused of scamming. rofl

If you read the user agreement, you'll see they can change anything in the game anytime they want, and you agree to it everytime you play :v


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