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#101 Azumatsu

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 01:04 AM

can GM/CMs filter every word 'balance' from this forum and sent it to outer space

 

every new gear coming people keep whining and use word 'balance' as their excuse

 

i'm curious are kro/jro players act as the world go into chaos every new update/OP gear thrown into their sever, which like we do usually

 

for thread starter, are you count how many new player quitted woe because you one shot them mindlessly(play very very skilled using 1 button) just because you have access exclusive gear such MVP and god


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#102 ch3kwa

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 01:06 AM

please remove it 

 

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#103 BlackMeow

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 01:11 AM

Here's to solve your issue:

 

step 1: create a melee class or magic type character that can also 1 shot players

step 2: level it up til max.

step 3: sell your items worth 150b

step 4: buy OP gears for your melee or magic type character

step 5: ...

step 6: profit


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#104 fuyukikun

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 02:24 AM

Here's to solve your issue:

step 1: create a melee class or magic type character that can also 1 shot players
step 2: level it up til max.
step 3: sell your items worth 150b
step 4: buy OP gears for your melee or magic type character
step 5: ...
step 6: profit

where's the RMT part?
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#105 Hikusaak

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 02:55 AM

Who said it? Lol thats whats wrong with you unfortunate, if I speak, you think its like that while most of you cries 100 times morethan this for OP this nerf this nerf that. Lol

Says one of the frequent players who always have something to QQ about.

And yeah you have Osiris & Amonra lol

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#106 VModCinnamon

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Posted 02 January 2017 - 03:00 AM

View mode only activated.

Will see about changing that tomorrow, for now please relax and go do constructive things.

 

Thread is now unlocked.

 

Re-posting:

 

A friendly reminder,

Kindly maintain a reasonable discussion, picking up fights with the participants is not constructive. If you disagree with a game addition provide a good feedback and be understanding. Saying that, derail, filter bypass, and being a jerk will ensure severe moderation actions.

 


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#107 Cleofe

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 12:22 PM

Thanks VModCinnamon!

 

Alright, back to the topic, I suggest that the shield be nerfed, at least make it not work in WOE and PVP maps.

 

There's already been too much reductions out there and so far this is the most absurd reduction on a shield. 

 

 


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#108 slwl1

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 03:21 PM

can we remove arrow storm cooldown then? or reduce no limit cooldown from 5 minute to 1 minute

 

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:11 PM

can we remove arrow storm cooldown then? or reduce no limit cooldown from 5 minute to 1 minute

 

:D

 

Technically it's 4 minutes since the countdown starts from casting the skill, so your suggestion would mean an endless no limits :X


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 01:40 AM

well thats the idea i do not have a thana and my dmg is like -_- without no limits. So in order to balance it (to account for the poor people) i suggest to reduce cooldown of no limits

 

and actually i wonder why not many rk's are complaining about this 


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#111 Ashuckel

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 01:57 AM

Because they know they are still very usefull, and that not every build will use this shield, that it can come off, and dealing with someone on high DB reducs before and now is basically the same.
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:03 AM

well thats the idea i do not have a thana and my dmg is like -_- without no limits. So in order to balance it (to account for the poor people) i suggest to reduce cooldown of no limits

 

and actually i wonder why not many rk's are complaining about this 

 

+1  :rice:

 

RKs are not affected greatly, since most people use Valk shield, that reduce 20% Fire/Water DB.

 

Replacing Valk shield with Imuke shield will only add 15% reduction.

 

Unlike vs Rangers, it will be full -35% reduction. I can feel how it weakened my ranger, I wonder how others feel, like thos who does not have MVP bows.

 

 

 

 


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#113 Ashuckel

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 03:32 AM

Now pair valk shield with angeling armor and it is a 40% reduction to DB.(and db is basically the main/only reason they used Angeling).

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 05:46 AM

well thats the idea i do not have a thana and my dmg is like -_- without no limits. So in order to balance it (to account for the poor people) i suggest to reduce cooldown of no limits

and actually i wonder why not many rk's are complaining about this


You just don't WoE. Simple as that. No MVP, no WoE unless you WoE casually for fun but I wonder how fun can it be until you get tired of dying to anything and not being able to kill anyone hahaha
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 09:29 AM

this shield is broken, it doesn't work vs lvl 10 goh.

I think I will be ok with it as long as they make it work too as intended meaning it should reduce ranged goh as well.

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#116 Cleofe

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 09:39 AM

You just don't WoE. Simple as that. No MVP, no WoE unless you WoE casually for fun but I wonder how fun can it be until you get tired of dying to anything and not being able to kill anyone hahaha


Damn bro, not so cool.

Btw, tgis is why they never get to balance it for everyone, its because they were looking up to the people with MVPs and they are doing their best to nerf them.

Making regular players more weak and not being able to have fun with this game. So needless to say, if you don't enjoy what you play, you quit.

They should make the balance based off the average players and not the top players.

Thats why I kept repeating it, that this shield is a mess, and should be reviewed and be nerfed.

At least something like make it work only on certain elements, say -35% on ranged neutral attack, something like that.

Or make it 15% reducts maybe this should be acceptable.
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 09:58 AM

The problem is not the shield, it's GoH. It always had ignored ranged reductions, both atk and hp part.
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 10:34 AM

The problem is not GoH, it is Sura  :p_devil:  :p_angel:


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:17 AM

The problem is not the shield, it's GoH. It always had ignored ranged reductions, both atk and hp part.

 

Well, shouldn't that be updated, instead of throwing these new gears affecting only "some" class. 

 

Feel so sorry for average players, its gonna hurt them more than the rest. Just like this fellow up here.

 

That's why players like him just quit making new class is not an option.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 11:45 AM

Average player would perform average with or without the shiels. In fact the shield helps em to survive better and do better :v

There havent even been a single "full scale woe" yet, so calm your damn tits and check it out tomorrow to see how everything goes.
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 12:24 PM

Average player would perform average with or without the shiels. In fact the shield helps em to survive better and do better :v

There havent even been a single "full scale woe" yet, so calm your damn tits and check it out tomorrow to see how everything goes.

 

We will see, but test shows it already otherwise. Seems like your only concern is WoE. Some still play pvp, even if you call it dead, still have to respect those who still play pvp.

 

I am calm, just don't want this to get burried and forgotten. 

 

I see a lot of people getting rid of their valk and immune shields. xD

 

Imuke will retire Valk and Immune shields.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 12:29 PM

or not, coz different builds.


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#123 Cleofe

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Posted 06 January 2017 - 05:00 PM

or not, coz different builds.

 

Like what? Give us an example?

 

 

Noone will use immune and valk shield no more, noone will take 5% reducts from elementals and some 7% from neutral from immune shield than -35% ranged from imuke shield all elements.

 

WoE wise, will sure go for imuke shield. This is just the truth. 

 

In WoE you only got to protect yourself mostly with Magic and Ranged attacks, but most people die from DB and Arrow Storm, TC and Magic damages which both old shield can't do much anyway to reduce them. 

 

Imuke shield needs to be re-balanced, so that it will be as close as possible to the old shields in terms of reduction. So that you can choose which shield to use depends on your build.


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Posted 06 January 2017 - 05:50 PM

how about a ranger and RK use the shield instead of trashing it? neh neh? problem solve

good thing phylla is in high ti next week
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Posted 06 January 2017 - 06:00 PM

how about a ranger and RK use the shield instead of trashing it? neh neh? problem solve

good thing phylla is in high ti next week

 

Not asking to trash it, but get it re evaluated, right now it is making 45% reduction based on tests, and other people confirmed that.

 

more like 15% is acceptable, you cant even spam A/S like DB does, and NL got 5min cooldown.


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