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#1 1548926523

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 11:41 PM

Just back into RO was wondering how much these items were.

 

Valk shield [1]

Long horn [1]

elemental towel [1]

wedding veil

Laphine staff [1]

Kardui Robe [1]

 

Thanks!


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#2 mungmungah

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Posted 03 January 2017 - 11:47 PM

Hello! It really depends on what server you are from. It's useful to check ragial site for the average prices as well as the selling price history to get a pretty good idea what they're worth. :)
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Posted 04 January 2017 - 05:00 AM

pretty useless stuff. maybe 1m~10m at most. except for the v.shield. that crap can be traded for certs. 


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 05:13 AM

Just back into RO was wondering how much these items were.

 

Valk shield [1]

Long horn [1]

elemental towel [1]

wedding veil

Laphine staff [1]

Kardui Robe [1]

 

Thanks!

 

Elemental towel will very likely become new Meta for AS chasers and performers when the bug fixed, the price could rose even further when the box left.

 

Laphine Staff will be beefed up big time when Laphine shield entered iRO

 

see my post in this thread for translated future Laphine Staff combo effect :p_smile:
 


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 12:30 PM

Elemental towel will very likely become new Meta for AS chasers and performers when the bug fixed, the price could rose even further when the box left.

 

Laphine Staff will be beefed up big time when Laphine shield entered iRO

 

see my post in this thread for translated future Laphine Staff combo effect :p_smile:
 

I can see it for Chasers but not Performers, losing the CD reduction from Bow of Storms is a pretty big deal


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Posted 04 January 2017 - 12:44 PM

Still doubtfull for chasers, Crimson Bow and FAW might be just equal


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 06:25 AM

Still doubtfull for chasers, Crimson Bow and FAW might be just equal

Towel Combo is cheaper. Only reason I plan on using it for awhile.


Edit: Though I'm still confused how the combo bonus works. Does it increase based on towel refine or bow refine?

Because if its Bow refined a +12 Bow will give 60% ranged increase + the increase from the towel, then you can add a Menblatt and an Archer Skel to propel it further.

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:05 AM

Towel Combo is cheaper. Only reason I plan on using it for awhile.


Edit: Though I'm still confused how the combo bonus works. Does it increase based on towel refine or bow refine?

Because if its Bow refined a +12 Bow will give 60% ranged increase + the increase from the towel, then you can add a Menblatt and an Archer Skel to propel it further.

No.

If Bow is +12 it will give 60% Severe Rainstorm AND 50% Arrow Storm increase NOT Ranged (As well as 1 ASPD at +10 if you care)

And the Towel's bonus itself stops at 7% RANGED increase (At +9, no need to get it any further)

 

And yea you can put Menblatt in the Towel and an AS to increase the damage further though gonna cost you 4 AS cards if you one in all four bows


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:11 AM

No.

If Bow is +12 it will give 60% Severe Rainstorm AND 50% Arrow Storm increase NOT Ranged (As well as 1 ASPD at +10 if you care)

And the Towel's bonus itself stops at 7% RANGED increase (At +9, no need to get it any further)

 

And yea you can put Menblatt in the Towel and an AS to increase the damage further though gonna cost you 4 AS cards if you one in all four bows

Converters over-ride arrow element so you only need one of the bows. Unless it does a pseudo elemental thing... But yeah I tested with converters on eggs and it worked. IDK, Ash probably understands that better.

Arrow Storm and Severe Rainstorm get the same damage bonus.


I wish I understood the math better, cause then I'd calculate it. I just know that if it gets fixed it's going to do some nice damage


Edit: Currently my FAW + OAB + appropriate converts outdamages by about 5000. When the towel is fixed I believe it's gonna match if not over-take. If it doesn't do it by enough it's simply time to wait for the price to go up and then sell the towel.
 


Edited by Joatmon, 05 January 2017 - 08:19 AM.

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:26 AM

No.

If Bow is +12 it will give 60% Severe Rainstorm AND 60% Arrow Storm increase NOT Ranged (As well as 1 ASPD at +10 if you care)

And the Towel's bonus itself stops at 7% RANGED increase (At +9, no need to get it any further)

 

And yea you can put Menblatt in the Towel and an AS to increase the damage further though gonna cost you 4 AS cards if you one in all four bows

 

There, fixed it for you

 

The skill damage boost is equal for both arrow storm and severe rainstorm :p_smile:

 

also dont forget elemental bow and its respective arrows combo provides extra 25% ranged damage boost plus the towel ranged bonus. It would be 32% ranged damage boost in total

 


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 08:32 AM

 

also dont forget elemental bow and its respective arrows combo provides extra 25% ranged damage boost plus the towel ranged bonus. It would be 32% ranged damage boost in total

 

I was wondering why it was doing close damage there for a second


Edit: I checked, converts over-ride arrow element :3


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:29 AM

Elemental towel will very likely become new Meta for AS chasers and performers when the bug fixed, the price could rose even further when the box left.

 

Laphine Staff will be beefed up big time when Laphine shield entered iRO

 

see my post in this thread for translated future Laphine Staff combo effect :p_smile:
 

 

Laphine staff can be farm form medusa.
 


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 10:10 AM

There's one small yet very important detail.

Gust/Earth/etc Bows base atk are incredibly low and they are lvl3 weapons :)


Your % boost can be enormous. If the atk im wich it is calculated is low, the result is still low.
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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:02 AM

There's one small yet very important detail.

Gust/Earth/etc Bows base atk are incredibly low and they are lvl3 weapons :)


Your % boost can be enormous. If the atk im wich it is calculated is low, the result is still low.



Truuuuutttthhhhhhhhh

I'm just saying it's the cheap option till you can get an overupgraded crimson bow. Crimson Bow is super expensive right now for some reason x.x~

Unless it does significantly more damage at +9~11 I'll stick with towel till I need Crimson. By that time I may just switch builds anyway cause I can pretty much solo scarabas right now.
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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:07 AM

after i remember orc archer bow and elven bow give ranged bonus +50% on low refine with default neutral type arrow

 

i'm not really interested with that towel


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:24 AM

Crimson Bow is super expensive right now for some reason x.x~

 

Go ahead, Ash! Say it!


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 11:48 AM

towel with menblatt and +12 bow with AS vs +12 crimson 2xAS and menblatt faw: towel combo does about 12% more damage

up to +15 refine the difference remains around the 12~14% mark

 

this is completely gearless besides those 2 gears alone. gear setups with % mods will favor the crimson setup way more, reducing or even inverting the gap between the two sets. As well as setups with flat atk(eddga proc, etc) will favor the towel combo.

 

If u card the crimson with 2x of the 20% cards(TG,race,element, etc) instead of 2AS (crimson has a lot of eATK to be affected by those cards)

ps: there's a 0.3% difference in dmg if u card one of these cards over AS card on the elemental bows. their atk is just too low, so i still consider AS on it.

 

at +12: towel has 6% more damage

at +15: difference is now 5%

 

if using specific carding (1race+1element, etc) the difference goes to around 4% at both refines.

 

 

and ultimately, with the purpose of MVPing, with 2x AK cards, the difference is barelly 1%.

 

 

 

 


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Posted 05 January 2017 - 02:54 PM

There, fixed it for you

The skill damage boost is equal for both arrow storm and severe rainstorm :p_smile:

also dont forget elemental bow and its respective arrows combo provides extra 25% ranged damage boost plus the towel ranged bonus. It would be 32% ranged damage boost in total


Sorry! Typo

And Damn, some very juicy info from Ash here for my future Chaser who I have absolutely no idea what I am planning to do with them but yea...
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Posted 05 January 2017 - 04:36 PM

towel with menblatt and +12 bow with AS vs +12 crimson 2xAS and menblatt faw: towel combo does about 12% more damage
up to +15 refine the difference remains around the 12~14% mark

this is completely gearless besides those 2 gears alone. gear setups with % mods will favor the crimson setup way more, reducing or even inverting the gap between the two sets. As well as setups with flat atk(eddga proc, etc) will favor the towel combo.

If u card the crimson with 2x of the 20% cards(TG,race,element, etc) instead of 2AS (crimson has a lot of eATK to be affected by those cards)
ps: there's a 0.3% difference in dmg if u card one of these cards over AS card on the elemental bows. their atk is just too low, so i still consider AS on it.

at +12: towel has 6% more damage
at +15: difference is now 5%

if using specific carding (1race+1element, etc) the difference goes to around 4% at both refines.


and ultimately, with the purpose of MVPing, with 2x AK cards, the difference is barelly 1%.

Literally just gonna use it for leveling so a +12~15 Crimson Bow is a little overboard for leveling to 160

Thanks for the math though. Its like logic porn.

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Posted 05 January 2017 - 04:58 PM

Its like logic porn.

 

Marty's Mind Bait :heh:

 


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