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[yamasakai90]

PLEASE STOP TURNING IN CELIAS MID BIOS IF YOU'RE AN ESSENTIAL CLASS!!!

 

 

I'm just gonna ask since RK, AB, Sorc, Gene, Ranger, Wandy, String already fills up 8-10 slots of the party, I deem them all essential.

 

After running with Aco, I feel like its a waste to turn in Celia in the middle of a bio4 run.

 

Reason? You missed out counts while turning in and EVERYONE has to do your extra counts when they, who didn't turn in celias mid bio has to complete your counts. Imagine the cumulative effect cause not everyone turn in celias at the same time.

 

But in terms of bmx wise, its still effecient to do 1 full bio + 1 celia for parties that take longer than 30mins to complete 1 bio4 run.

 

Sadly for public parties, these is the sad reality that we face. 

[Joatmon]

I'm just gonna ask since RK, AB, Sorc, Gene, Ranger, Wandy, String already fills up 8-10 slots of the party, I deem them all essential.

After running with Aco, I feel like its a waste to turn in Celia in the middle of a bio4 run.

Reason? You missed out counts while turning in and EVERYONE has to do your extra counts when they, who didn't turn in celias mid bio has to complete your counts. Imagine the cumulative effect cause not everyone turn in celias at the same time.

But in terms of bmx wise, its still effecient to do 1 full bio + 1 celia for parties that take longer than 30mins to complete 1 bio4 run.

Sadly for public parties, these is the sad reality that we face.

I had to explain to a party last night why you want a ranger if you hit 3 RKs:| They wanted a fourth RK instead xD

[Kusanagisama]

I'm just gonna ask since RK, AB, Sorc, Gene, Ranger, Wandy, String already fills up 8-10 slots of the party, I deem them all essential.

 

After running with Aco, I feel like its a waste to turn in Celia in the middle of a bio4 run.

 

Reason? You missed out counts while turning in and EVERYONE has to do your extra counts when they, who didn't turn in celias mid bio has to complete your counts. Imagine the cumulative effect cause not everyone turn in celias at the same time.

 

But in terms of bmx wise, its still effecient to do 1 full bio + 1 celia for parties that take longer than 30mins to complete 1 bio4 run.

 

Sadly for public parties, these is the sad reality that we face. 

 

The problem is that in a Pub you usually can TI one Full Count + 1 Celia board in a single BMX3, and you'll lose the BMX's extra EXP for Celia's BB if you don't do this.

 

My greatest problem with Bio4 Pugs is that people wait hours to form a party, then are content to finish a single TI and leave. When things go right, they wait for others to finish their BB quest then leave. The time wasted on waiting could be easily compensated if people didn't leave so soon, but it's life. We don't know other people's circunstances, so we can't judge.

[Ashuckel]

If ppl just use their damn words, there's no problem turning in Celias.

It's only not worth doing it if the party cant get a full count of all mobs in under 30min(actually 28~29 if u consider the time to get inside and indeed start). Otherwise you can mostly always get 2x Celia TI done in the time it takes to complete the other monsters counts. And not turning in that is an exp loss.

Remember, use ur words.

[Joatmon]

If ppl just use their damn words, there's no problem turning in Celias.

It's only not worth doing it if the party cant get a full count of all mobs in under 30min(actually 28~29 if u consider the time to get inside and indeed start). Otherwise you can mostly always get 2x Celia TI done in the time it takes to complete the other monsters counts. And not turning in that is an exp loss.

Remember, use ur words.

People don't know how to say anything or plan anything. Plus some people don't speak enough English to even completely understand some things.

[WolfTri]

People don't know how to say anything or plan anything. Plus some people don't speak enough English to even completely understand some things.

If they can read "Celia 150/150", then they can type "Celia".

[Azumatsu]

hmm but somehow some people tooks too long on celia TI and spend much time on lighthalzen

 

the problem appear at the end count, they begging to finish their count

[WolfTri]

hmm but somehow some people tooks too long on celia TI and spend much time on lighthalzen

 

the problem appear at the end count, they begging to finish their count

Be selfish just like they were. You're done, you leave. That is how it works in random groups. Be generous and altruistic all you want, but don't expect the same from strangers. Or just be selfish yourself as well.

[Richkr]

I honestly TI Celia when party is overall a crap. Ofc I let ppl know.
Otherwise I skip, esp if my party decide to TI together or bc I miss a lot of counts turning in when dps is insanely good.
Rude people is everywhere, not just in bio :/

[Hissis]

That's why we should have PK.

[Zander]

Thats why i solo in nct instead might be a lil slower but not really. It gets the job done lol

[Joatmon]

Thats why i solo in nct instead might be a lil slower but not really. It gets the job done lol

Not every class can effectively solo NCT without some issues or pricey gears.

[Zander]

Not every class can effectively solo NCT without some issues or pricey gears.

Thats true. I guess im only speaking on offensive classes.

[ShoLin]

[Raitonagata]

Thats why i solo in nct instead might be a lil slower but not really. It gets the job done lol

 

this is reason im spend all zeny on gearing gx, and make alt gx for 150~165 share leeching at NCT

buy gwing box, me and my alt can live happily ever after to 175 huehuehuehueue

[yamasakai90]

I just realised, its quite vicious.

 

Good DPS party => TI-ing celia will cause you to lose quite a few counts, eventhough it takes less that 60s (60s is an overstatement for a bwing and a direct rush to BB and back to Bio4, 15-20s is more likely)

Bad DPS party => Who cares, they don't kill that much in the amount of time frame anyway, i'm not missing much. lets just delay the party even more.

 

Yeah, I stop going for pubs bio4, NCT or just wait for my friends is way less frustrating. 

[stoenr]

pubs are ok if theres nothing else.  u should be able to figure out how it will go by looking at your party window heh.  but you should never expect a 2x run in a pub because it does take some more teamwork to make it possible.  that is why you usually see the same people in those parties.