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[Usurper]

I checked it's price in Ragial for both Thor and Chaos and it seems stable at 900m+, does it deserve it's price or  are there just too many OP vendors?

Edited by Usurper, 08 January 2017 - 02:49 AM.

[Myzery]

The rarity and usefulness commands the price. It is insanely strong, but unless you get it from a box, you will more than likely never use enough potions to "pay" for it.
I think Wolftri did the math on it.

[Usurper]

you will more than likely never use enough potions to "pay" for it.

 

If I understood this correctly, I guess it'll depend on how long you plan on participating in WoE/PvP/PvM or just playing RO in general to be able to "pay" for it or make the most out of it for its price.

 

Pretty sure once the overseas package leaves,  the price might even go higher.

Edited by Usurper, 07 January 2017 - 10:46 PM.

[Myzery]

The price will go up for sure. I mean you may eventually pay for it, but I would personally not give up a hanky in WoE.

[Usurper]

Good point. I don't play an RG but I think Syringe is much more beneficial for them compared to a hanky? especially devo RG's, the longer they survive increases the chance of conquering a castle. If you think of it that way, then this item is really insanely strong.

Edited by Usurper, 08 January 2017 - 12:06 AM.

[meditation]

Good point. I don't play an RG but I think Syringe is much more beneficial for them compared to a hanky? especially devo RG's, the longer they survive increases the chance of conquering a castle. If you think of it that way, then this item is really insanely strong.

 

Not really since you can use WoE White Potions during War Of Emperium. Nice tool for PvM for sure tho, maybe WoE Training Edition.

[Nirvanna21]

Syringe is for TE and PVM.

[meditation]

Syringe is for TE and PVM.

And TE scene is almost dead (at least on chaos) so i guess everyone is getting it for pvm.

[yamasakai90]

Just a basic calculation.

 

Lets just say 900m and ren's slims at 4k, you need to consume 225,000 slim to pay up for it and if you consume 30,000 a month, thats still 7.5 months.

Of course the reason why you do this is to halve your consumption of ren slims:

- so the 30,000 a month is with the assumption you normally consume 60,000 before applying toy syringe;

- or use 30,000 a month using flamel.

 

Therefore it will probably take a year or two to pay it off cause I don't think the majority uses 30,000 slims a month.

 

Of course when you factor in higher recovery rate, convenience why, I would say it pays itself up pretty fast. 

[BlackMeow]

i think the price is not about how much slims you can save but the potting efficiency itself so you can outpot a

 

1. mobs of monsters

2. high aspd character that can't 1 hit you but has high normal atk damage

3. and skills that can't 1-hit you but spammable. 

 

but i agree though. it's overpriced af. i think 200-400m is enough for that gear

Edited by BlackMeow, 08 January 2017 - 07:31 AM.

[Hissis]

The price is stupid,not worth it.

[Sewasan]

The price is stupid,not worth it.

Off Topic, but...i love your signature hahahahaha xD

[Usurper]

1. mobs of monsters

2. high aspd character that can't 1 hit you but has high normal atk damage

3. and skills that can't 1-hit you but spammable. 

 

Agree, aside from TE and PVM (especially boss hunting) I think it's a good item for PVP as well as you won't have to sacrifice 1 of your main equipment ex. helm, armor,  shield or acce. 

 

So I think we could all agree that it is pretty useful and is extremely rare. It's also uncertain if iRO will bring this item back to the cash shop once it leaves as this came originally from jRO.

 

 

Edited by Usurper, 08 January 2017 - 08:07 AM.

[SeikenDensetsu]

all these speculations are useless, since it's about convenience.

 

with the exception of love piece, lower headgears are pretty useless.

 

might as well use the syringe if you dont need a love piece.

 

this speaks volumes about the lack of useful lower headgears currently available ... those +1/+2 stat gears are really dumb just like costumes just giving 1% or +1 of some crappy stat.

 

be more creative with gears please, iRO

Edited by SeikenDensetsu, 08 January 2017 - 08:12 AM.

[Mathspy]

all these speculations are useless, since it's about convenience.

 

with the exception of love piece, lower headgears are pretty useless.

 

might as well use the syringe if you dont need a love piece.

 

this speaks volumes about the lack of useful lower headgears currently available ... those +1/+2 stat gears are really dumb just like costumes just giving 1% or +1 of some crappy stat.

 

be more creative with gears please, iRO

That slot as well as costumes were never meant to be powerhouses so it kind of makes sense for them to give +2 stats

[SeikenDensetsu]

That slot as well as costumes were never meant to be powerhouses so it kind of makes sense for them to give +2 stats

 

wrong. new gears open up new build possibilities and increase game enjoyment.

 

who gives a crap about +1% sp, hp, sp, attack or aspd?

 

in terms of sheer functionality, such underpowered items are a bs idea.

 

for example: old players see new patch update, get happy, then see crap items, and get dissapointed and don't bother coming back.

 

current players: update with ideas, meh

 

lazy to argue with you mathspy, but if you wanna deal with piss poor items it's your problem

Edited by SeikenDensetsu, 08 January 2017 - 08:21 AM.

[Mathspy]

wrong. new gears open up new build possibilities and increase game enjoyment.

 

who gives a crap about +1% sp, hp, sp, attack or aspd?

 

in terms of sheer functionality, such underpowered items are a bs idea.

Nothing about what I said is "wrong"... The original intention behind those slots was not to be powerhouses

[ShinobiEX3]

wrong. new gears open up new build possibilities and increase game enjoyment.

 

who gives a crap about +1% sp, hp, sp, attack or aspd?

 

in terms of sheer functionality, such underpowered items are a bs idea.

 

for example: old players see new patch update, get happy, then see crap items, and get dissapointed and don't bother coming back.

 

current players: update with ideas, meh

 

lazy to argue with you mathspy, but if you wanna deal with piss poor items it's your problem

Let me play to.

 

But it won't ^.^

 

your turn

[KingAbel]

wrong. new gears open up new build possibilities and increase game enjoyment.

 

who gives a crap about +1% sp, hp, sp, attack or aspd?

 

in terms of sheer functionality, such underpowered items are a bs idea.

 

for example: old players see new patch update, get happy, then see crap items, and get dissapointed and don't bother coming back.

 

current players: update with ideas, meh

 

lazy to argue with you mathspy, but if you wanna deal with piss poor items it's your problem

 

Wow, straw man much?

 

 

Or maybe you just don't know what the word "wrong" actually means. 

[Nirvanna21]

Just a basic calculation.

 

Lets just say 900m and ren's slims at 4k, you need to consume 225,000 slim to pay up for it and if you consume 30,000 a month, thats still 7.5 months.

Of course the reason why you do this is to halve your consumption of ren slims:

- so the 30,000 a month is with the assumption you normally consume 60,000 before applying toy syringe;

- or use 30,000 a month using flamel.

 

Therefore it will probably take a year or two to pay it off cause I don't think the majority uses 30,000 slims a month.

 

Of course when you factor in higher recovery rate, convenience why, I would say it pays itself up pretty fast. 

 

Doing the math on the syringe is stupid, the point is that it provides a huge buff to slim healing. In PVM alone this buff makes the difference between life and death when face tanking certain enemies.

[PervySageMarty]

Some people do not deserve to survive when face tanking, I sometimes wish Lex Aeterna could be used on players and party members.

[ShinobiEX3]

lex theiry supidity and make u can one shot it so then they can become smart. ........ Wait does it work that way?

[Hissis]

Off Topic, but...i love your signature hahahahaha xD

 

Thanks,i changed it to be a part of the RO Meta.

 

Paint Skillz

[Boyeteers]

Not worth the price of buying it for 1b unless you are woe te/pvm leveling millions of alts. Woe White potions are still the best choice on woe 1 or 2 unless you're using something to speed up stroke in hotkeys (lmao). Good for woe TE/PVM

 

[KingAbel]

Considering how much bdm and blood sucker sell for, and are pretty terrible, syringe price sounds about right.