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#1 carbonrow

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 12:46 AM

So I did my calculations, stripping my character down, and calculating that Hero's Plate with PecoPeco card (+15% max HP, +5% max SP) provides less overall bonus to dragon breath damage compared to glorious Glorious Suit. I did account for 1 SP = 12.5 HP when calculating the ratio for dragon's breath damage. I don't know if my calculations were accurate enough to decide on which armour is better to maximise DB damage. 

Also, I did this without any other equipment on that adds MHP/MSP modifiers (e.g. Turkey, Malicious Shadow Set, Ur Seals SP+250, etc..). 

 

I just want to ask what the veterans think of the better armour of choice between the two..without suggesting godlies and MVPs ofc  :heh:  :heh:


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Posted 21 January 2017 - 01:28 AM

It all depends on overall hp/sp values you have before the % is applied. Gears may or may not change the results too.

The advantage of having DB damage coming from SP is that you dont have to keep sp full for DB to hit for max dmg, altho in general is easier to reach higher dmgs with HP.
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 01:57 AM

It all depends on overall hp/sp values you have before the % is applied. Gears may or may not change the results too.

The advantage of having DB damage coming from SP is that you dont have to keep sp full for DB to hit for max dmg, altho in general is easier to reach higher dmgs with HP.

 Can you tell me when the armour percentage bonus is applied? Because when I'm fully gears and I try to calculate my max HP and SP, it goes out of whack and does not match my answer. I'm assuming there's like a priority of which bonus is applied first like stat bonus > card bonus > gear bonus etc.. 
 

Thanks for the reply too  :thx:


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#4 Ashuckel

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 02:39 AM

Its the same for both hp/sp, just replace vit with int and hp with sp:

(Base hp*(1+(VIT*0.01)) + Flat HP)*(1+(HP%/100))
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Posted 30 January 2017 - 03:08 PM

SP increase much more damage than HP, i try hero Mask (Vit+10) vs 150 mid SP and that Vit +10 deal like 500 more Dmg. 


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Posted 30 January 2017 - 03:15 PM

1sp = 12.5 hp

just do the math of wich gear option gives u the most dmg and go with it


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Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:35 PM

ok lets do the comparision.
 

RK Build 60 61 120 100 120 oriented to max sp with Hero plate, Carat, incubus, Banshee Master Kiss.
HP: 79617 SP: 4443

 

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RK Build 60 61 120 100 120 Oriented to max HP with Glorious Suite, Hero Mask, Stamina Turkey
HP: 92526 SP: 3606

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DB formula just with hp and sp modifiers: [(CurrHP ÷ 50) + (MaxSP ÷ 4)]

 

so SP Dmg is:   2.703,04

and HP dmg is: 2.752.02 (just win at end high gears, +9 Turkey or without vit+10 i think dont win)

Now just naked RK with Glorious Suite and Hero Plate peco peco, to answer your question:

Same build Glorious Suite HP 65490 SP 2532 DMG Deal: 1942
Same Build Hero Plate peco peco :
HP 62761 SP 2658 DMG Deal: 1919

conclusion:

 

Glorious Suite is bit better for DB. also if you are using Hero Mask the cast of Storm Gust by reflect can be really annoying 


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Posted 30 January 2017 - 04:43 PM

You dont need all that, a you need is see how much hp vs sp a gear gonna give you. Look at the formula and you see HP/50 and SP/4, aka 1sp has the same weight on dmg than 12.5hp.

Now if a gear gives u 100 sp, then a replacement of hp would need to give 1250 hp to be the same, and so on.
SP part of damage stays the same regardless of ur hp, while hp you eventally can get more dmg than with sp but requires u to keep ur hp pool filled.
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Posted 31 January 2017 - 11:10 PM

Add elemental tights + peco peco to that calculation


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