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#1 UrsaRamdine

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:30 AM

I've never tried this skil ever since Renewal. But I'm curious about it. I'm gonna make a perma baby Sin just for fun.

 

Is the description in irowiki up to date?

Is it affected by +x% damage card like Hydra?

 

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:42 AM

while you waiting for Ash-senpai

i could answer this

it does work, high atk and racial card increase the damage output

but Deadly Poison doesnt work with that skill

 

so the damage will be low

even with dual-handed

 

bomb timer is insane


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:48 AM

The dmg isnt that low because of the lack of EDP, its because the damage is split depending on the number of mobs in the 3x3 AoE range of the skill. Any mobs on the 5x5 portion dont count for the dmg split.

Dmg can be K ish, not good tho.
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#4 UrsaRamdine

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:52 AM

while you waiting for Ash-senpai

i could answer this

it does work, high atk and racial card increase the damage output

but Deadly Poison doesnt work with that skill

 

so the damage will be low

even with dual-handed

 

bomb timer is insane

 

It's too bad that Deadly Poison doesn't work with it. But it's okay since I'm gonna use it for fun only with my future baby Sin.

 

Other thing come to mind. We should hold a baby exclusive WoE!


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:52 AM

split 3x3 ?

thanks for info ;d

 

 

yes, spamming meteor assault easier 

but baby sin tho  :p_swt:

 

just make lv 99 cute and stylish sinx   :heh:


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:54 AM

Wow if it does work with EDP

its gonna be 5x5 AoE Venom Pressure i think ( 1000% , splasher 1200% with max p.react )

 

use with dual kvm  maybe :heh:  

 

 


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 08:01 AM

Kvm+ element/race/size is better :v
The best AoE for SinX is a Marine Sphere carded Acc :v
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Posted 13 February 2017 - 08:20 AM

This skill is better via the autocast of the ring of res, tbh. That + reflect makes for very easy leveling as you will cast it very frequently and with no gemstone cost, often having multiple "bombs" go off around one another. 

 

Ashuckel, I been meaning to ask this but forgetting, when a skill is elemental (envenom, holy cross, magnum break [disregarding the atk boost it gives, just the base attack]) is the full atk power (status + hard atk) endowed or is it like a converter/sage-endow where only the wATK+eATK is endowed? 


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#9 UrsaRamdine

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 08:26 AM

The dmg isnt that low because of the lack of EDP, its because the damage is split depending on the number of mobs in the 3x3 AoE range of the skill. Any mobs on the 5x5 portion dont count for the dmg split.

Dmg can be K ish, not good tho.

Guess I'll just use it as single target skill then. Though maybe with some good positioning it can be a decent AoE? You'll never know if you never try. I will make my baby Sin as soon as my farmer GX VIP runs out!

 

split 3x3 ?

thanks for info ;d

 

 

yes, spamming meteor assault easier 

but baby sin tho  :p_swt:

 

just make lv 99 cute and stylish sinx   :heh:

Back in 2003/4, my first ever character is a girl Sin. Sadly she never made it to SinX. I'm gonna name my new baby after her.

 

Wow if it does work with EDP

its gonna be 5x5 AoE Venom Pressure i think ( 1000% , splasher 1200% with max p.react )

 

use with dual kvm  maybe :heh:  

That's what I thought too. It could be a very fun skill. But then I read that EDP doesn't work with it. What a bummer. Maybe kRO thought it would be bad advertising to make a bomb as Assassin main damaging skill. Cause you know combination of bomb and desert people is never a good thing. Sorry.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 08:45 AM

This skill is better via the autocast of the ring of res, tbh. That + reflect makes for very easy leveling as you will cast it very frequently and with no gemstone cost, often having multiple "bombs" go off around one another.

Ashuckel, I been meaning to ask this but forgetting, when a skill is elemental (envenom, holy cross, magnum break [disregarding the atk boost it gives, just the base attack]) is the full atk power (status + hard atk) endowed or is it like a converter/sage-endow where only the wATK+eATK is endowed?


Same as converter iirc, could be wrong, never paid much attention to this. Also, this could vary from skill to skill. I know of some that can grab "double" element via mild wind, or even ""triple"" with mild wind and being a forced X element skill( like grand cross)
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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:31 PM

Same as converter iirc, could be wrong, never paid much attention to this. Also, this could vary from skill to skill. I know of some that can grab "double" element via mild wind, or even ""triple"" with mild wind and being a forced X element skill( like grand cross)

 

Interesting. I for whatever reason had it in my head it was like sage-endow too (anecdotally from seeing damage increase when using magnum break compared to regular attack).

 

I guess I can compare some basic stuff like envenom, MB, etc. in an all-eATK setup.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:53 PM

magnum break dmg boost is also something totally different than other stuff :v


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:55 PM

Yeh, it's why I left it out when using MB as an example. Though reading the description on wiki states that the bonus is already a part of the initial cast, and so I guess it _can't_ be left out of it. 

 

EDIT: I also notice now that wiki contradicts itself stating, at first, that the 20% bonus is neutral but later stating it is fire property. 


Edited by mildcontempt, 13 February 2017 - 12:57 PM.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 03:55 PM

I have Venom Splasher on my GX. Yes, it's damage is low. But it can increase leech chance together with RC. My HP/SP replenished quickly with that combo
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Posted 18 February 2017 - 12:30 PM

Would be nice if sd could be spammed like genetic cc lol
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