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#1 SeikenDensetsu

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:50 AM

Hi there,

Regarding Picky Peck:

 

1. Since it is ranged, does that mean Dex > Str for damage?

2. Does it have variable, after cast, fixed cast delay?

3. Is aspd important?

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#2 Silvianna

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:01 AM

1. you need high atk and high dex 

2. full variable, pretty much with doram special accessories you will get insta cast, only Kiels left

3. yes, animation delay 


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:03 AM

No, the weapo scales of str. The accessory boosts based on dex, so they are kinda equally important(dont go full dex for the boost, its stupid and bad).
2. Yes, yes, no.
3. Only if you have enough cast delay reduction or are on strings, so yo may cas more than 1 per second.
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#4 SeikenDensetsu

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:24 AM

Ah right .. thank you both Silvianna and Ash.

So by that definition, does that mean for physical doram, the following applies:

 

1. weapon damage is based of str so str is important

2. 2x worm accessory means no variable cast

3. since no variable cast, dex only matters as the accessory boost is based off dex

- by this definition, int is not important for cast

4. since there is no fixed time cast, temporal dex boots is not as useful unless considering its dex bonuses or enchants, for which it doesnt have to be temporal dex anyway

- also because of this, the luxury doram set is not useful for physical doram

5. there is after cast delay, so kiels are good for spam if you are going to spam it picky peck

 

Am I correct to say the above?

 

Also if its not too unreasonable does anyone have a sample skill set that they use?

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:29 AM

4. They cant wear temporals anyways. You can use the doram set for them coz it gives a ton of hp and some other good effects. For full dmg on PP you may want to drop the set and wear individual of other gears like FAW etc
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:31 AM

you need set for  leveling with Lunatic Carrot 

Picky Peck gives you freedom and flexibility , you can use faw etc etc anything you want

 

but for Carrot, you need set to get the combo effect


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:36 AM

Thank you both so much for your answer, it clears up a lot of my doubts, I feel like I can see where my doram is going now, thank you ! :D :D :D


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:48 AM

so what is the 3 main stats of doram? any one try to abused the use of unli skill reset hypnotist 99 npc to try some damage test ?
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:51 AM

i was going to reset my doram  :heh:

but turned out Izlude map down 


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:10 AM

Use the prontera one '-'
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:33 PM

So dex/str would be the ideal stat build for a physical type doram? (I just started with 40 dex since that's usually a safe bet regardless of class)

 

With the (massive) hp boosts you get from the doram set is it worth investing in vit or should I go agi as my third stat for the aspd/flee?


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 12:52 PM

Considering their ASPD is absolute -_- I think Vit would be a good stay up to 95 then luk will do a lot to help you with damage, and then you can grab int too
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:33 PM

uhhh, their aspd is completely fine, i could easily achieve 192 on sakray wearing sub optimal gears


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:45 PM

uhhh, their aspd is completely fine, i could easily achieve 192 on sakray wearing sub optimal gears

 

That's with 100 agi? Solo or with other char support?


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:48 PM

that was 120 agi and solo, but as i said, suboptimal setup, so you can get the same with less agi.

Arclouse dash is free 40 agi '-', their aspd isnt -_- at all


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 01:54 PM

i'm trying to get the setup right without stuffing up the damage, lol .... >.<

 

and yes arclouse dash is <3 :D


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 02:13 PM

Alright ,looks like I'll be going 50 dex/str/agi to start with then figure out where to go from there, I'm like, lvl 25 right now so I'll worry about sourcing better gear once I get up there


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:17 PM

Ash I can't go no where near 192 aspd with a staff and a shield, how did you pull that off? lol


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 10:07 PM

that was 120 agi and solo, but as i said, suboptimal setup, so you can get the same with less agi.

Arclouse dash is free 40 agi '-', their aspd isnt -_- at all

 

But but but staves have awful ASPD mods

 

 

 

Edit:

 

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Full Doram Set is for LCB, PP is going to use alternative items where applicable (I.E FAW)


Edited by Joatmon, 17 February 2017 - 10:10 PM.

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#20 Silvianna

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 10:20 PM

Both Lunatic Carrot Beat and Picky Peck rely on Ranged Atk % modifier


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Posted 17 February 2017 - 10:54 PM

I feel like if you don't have strings or kiels, picky peck is pretty lackluster and people are going to be disappointed.


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Posted 18 February 2017 - 12:44 AM

not really, it's a 1s cd only, with a chance to double cast. Even without delay reduction the DPS is very acceptable


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Posted 18 February 2017 - 09:34 AM

Both Lunatic Carrot Beat and Picky Peck rely on Ranged Atk % modifier

The accessory set for LCB gives vastly more damage than any other equipment you can wear

For Picky Peck though, two chubby earthworms are all you really need from the doram equips then stack whatever gear increases ranged damage


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Posted 18 February 2017 - 10:11 AM

yupp im just saying aside from those accs,

you can push the damage with ranged atk to get maximum result

accs + stacking ranged % 


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Posted 18 February 2017 - 04:26 PM

still can't get anywhere near 192 aspd, master ash please rescue ~ >o<


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