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[Gabrielr04]

So with the implement of the new set (La'Cryma Stick and Pororoca Shoes) i wanted to confirm with you guys if the past set Crimson Rod with NP/NCT cards is obsolete. Like if it's not worth it to have it anymore xD. In my case i'm gonna get the +12 La'Cryma Stick and Pororoca shoes soon but i'm curious to ask in case the old set is useless try to make profit at least from it... try

[nitaant]

for warlocks you mean, its still valid for sorcs

[Ashuckel]

No, the more piercing the better

[Gabrielr04]

So trying to sell would be the best?

[Ashuckel]

100% piercing is much more superior than 70~80% piercing.

Mdef works in diminishing returns, wich means the first few mdef numbers give a very high reduction, while increasing mdef will not increase as much the reduction. If the target has lets say 400 mdef and you compare 75% vs 100% piercing, one leaves the enemy with still 100 mdef to calculate your damage, and 100 mdef is still 45% damage reduction.

The closer to 100% you can get, the better.

[nitaant]

with 2 big bell cards and nm arclouse shield i get 100% piercing no?

[Ashuckel]

no, combo effects only apply once

[Gabrielr04]

So the new meta is Lacryma Stick/poroca shoes and NP/NCT combo. Welp time to try to sell that Crimson Rod xD

[nitaant]

it says bypasses mdef per level of frost nova known.

 

whats the best in slot gear for sorcs in terms of weapon and shield and cards for weapon and shield?

[Casval17]

Still Crimson Rod + MBS for sorcs, unless there will be upcoming jRO shoes that works similar to Pororoca Shoes but specifically designed for Sorc.

 

Maybe shoes that gives MDEF Pierce by 5% for every known level of Hocus-pocus learned

 

Big Ben-Neo Punk Combo for Demon and Formless Races

Nightmare Mimic-Nightmare Arclouse Combo for Brute and Undead Races

GDS for Intensive Demi-human slaying or GAW if you need shield for survivability

 

As for the rest, look up here

Edited by Casval17, 18 February 2017 - 02:42 PM.

[Azumatsu]

only wizard class have frost nova skill, that combo not work on sorcerer class 

 

better waiting magician glove[1] (JRO gear) come to us 

[son12]

how about GSD vs Lacryma set?

[fuyukikun]

time for truth:

 

78% mdef pierce, crimson rod combo

 

100% (actually 128% ) mdef pierce, lacryma combo

 

[Casval17]

Gile, keren banget si om puyuu

mau dongs +15 Lacryma nya 

[fuyukikun]

S> +12 lacrymas 350m each. 7 left. hurry

[Raitonagata]

so the FNOVA effect only happen when we wear the stick ??

 

hmmmm, i need read it many time before realize it NEED STICK for mdef pierce

[fuyukikun]

yes

[CadburyChocolate]

not surprised with the difference since even @ 90% there will be a large gap with 100%, one reason i am not pleased with MDEF ignore except if i t's 100%. 

 

[Kusanagisama]

not surprised with the difference since even @ 90% there will be a large gap with 100%, one reason i am not pleased with MDEF ignore except if i t's 100%. 

 

I can relate.

[roromi]

Posting here for the sake of comparison, 110 int,  +13 zaha proc and lacryma + poro shoes set, HBP of power(didnt have spare garments since i was rushing to test the damage out)

 

Edited by roromi, 20 February 2017 - 05:51 AM.

[son12]

I did 61k at lvl 100 with amp xD

 

umm and I made another +12 and +13 Lacryma, I have 4 now, hunted a big ben too xD

 

btw nice one fuyuki! Why Dokebi armor though owo

Edited by son12, 20 February 2017 - 07:51 AM.

[Ashuckel]

that dokebi armor hurts my eyes '-'

[son12]

that dokebi armor hurts my eyes '-'

 

Edited by son12, 20 February 2017 - 08:06 AM.

[fuyukikun]

forgot to switch, i died after getting hit by dark thunder after that. glad i token-ed. bummer 

[LordYggdrasill]

Has anyone done an analysis of how much more damage you can do with the new Lacryma Stick/Pororoca Shoes combo, as compared to the old Crimson Rod/Temporal Boots combo? Does Lacryma Rod Combo always outshine Crimson Rod Combo in all circumstances? Just wondering.