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[SilverCrow88]

i've tried this Doram with Physical but it seems i kinda mess up my stats

 

Is there anyone can help me what stats is for Physical Range build?

Edited by SilverCrow88, 20 February 2017 - 06:16 PM.

[ThunderDragon]

Str/dex for your dmg. You'll also want vit for sure, after that you're welcome to get either int or agi. Int for more sp leech and if you opt to get the first shrimp skill lvl 1 w/ your last skill point or agi to opt for soul attack for farther range and aspd increase for auto attack. Also if you get agi you might want to atleast get 60 agi to get rid of animation delay.

Edited by ThunderDragon, 20 February 2017 - 06:26 PM.

[SilverCrow88]

alright but i'm not sure which one gives more damage on skill Str or dex ? 

[ThunderDragon]

They are equal, you'll want an even spread on both. LCB is based off attack as your main dmg point and it's also a ranged skill so dex will also increase the damage. PP is based off range and attack damage. That's why you want both str and dex even.

When I was soloing mid TI I had doram set with grass necklace on the right side accessory (because it doesn't switch unless you manually change it), and I switch between earthworm and bunny charm depending on if I use PP or LCB, when I do this I one shot all the monsters. Bunny charm with grass necklace is for LCB and just the earthworm is used for PP.

Edited by ThunderDragon, 20 February 2017 - 06:47 PM.

[SilverCrow88]

ah so that means i have to put 100 on str and dex? 

[ThunderDragon]

Yes that would be good for a physical build

My current build is:
108 str
1 agi
60 vit
1 int
113 dex
1 luk

My phys doram is level 127/50
And I have the soul attack skill.

When I tested on izlude eggs with 2x earthworm charms I was doing around 200k dmg. When I went to lasagna dungeon lvl 3 I was doing roughly 113k dmg.

[SilverCrow88]

ah that's really nice 

ow and for gears is it possible to use other gears instead Doram gears later? :x because most of the gears i use are:

+9 Immune HBP

Rwh + Alarm mask Combo

 

Also is it ok to use Phen card? because most skills were cooldown also It cancels when got damage taken :/

[ThunderDragon]

Should be fine, I would double check on the phen if you have a clip or something with it first because I'm not sure if someone said it wasn't working or not. I'm using the doram set so it works like a phen with out the variable cast increase but when I swap out to my menblatt faw for more damage, I use a +12 mad bunny shield so I don't worry about cast interruption.

Any gear is fine as long as it's for all classes, for lvling purposes I use RWH, though it really only procs with LCB more so than PP since mob > single monster. So I have toy syringe in lower or anything that increases hp healing boost.

Another point of doram phys build your dmg is kind of like a DB RK where dmg is equal to percent of your hp, if you are at 80% hp your max dmg will be 80% of normal. That's only for PP though and the part it's not like a RK is the max hp you have doesn't matter it's just the percent of your total hp

Edited by ThunderDragon, 20 February 2017 - 07:23 PM.

[SilverCrow88]

ah alright and btw i've already tested Phen card last Sunday and it works 

also might gonna need lots of work to get Doram gears because Ragial Price becomes really Insane Expensive 

[ThunderDragon]

Oh ok cool deal ^_^, and doram gears aren't overly expensive unless it's the 175 one because their drop rate is horrible, if you want to farm the lvl 100 one I suggest Rachel map 5 because 100 kobolds insta spawn, use HE gum. And since it's refine event fairly easy to get +9 doram gears if you have like 5-7 of each type not using any certs and using enriched from +5-9. The weapon is fairly cheap and easily to +10, I made a +10 from enriched using only 3-4 lvl 100 weapons.


To get the earthworm charms you'll need to trade in doram gears to get doram tokens, you need 30 tokens for 1 earthworm charm. And the bunny charm for the first one is 10 tokens, and to get the next one you need the first bunny charm with 30 tokens

Lvl 100 gear gives 2 tokens
Lvl 140 gear gives 3
Lvl 175 gives 4

The grass necklace can also be traded in for 2 tokens

Edited by ThunderDragon, 20 February 2017 - 07:41 PM.

[SilverCrow88]

Whoa thats a good info alright i'll give it a try farm those alot  

 but the problem is  enriched ores from Daily quen is disabled now   

Edited by SilverCrow88, 20 February 2017 - 07:42 PM.

[ThunderDragon]

You can also vend your excess doram gears and buy a 50 or 100 count of e.elu/ori, if you have a decently high level char. Go to lasagna dungeon 3 and kill the mobs there with HE gum, they drop ygg berries, doram gear lvl 140 and 175, and a few other stuff. But they also have like 200-300k hp. So GX is good for farming stuff like that.

[SilverCrow88]

ah alright and the Lunatic Carrot skill is really slow cooldown   

 

Is there a way to reduce cooldown?   except from Stringer of course lol 

[ThunderDragon]

I was in a party once with stringer and it doesn't reduce its CD, only way so far would be new wave sunnies, upgrade hwhb, or kiels lol.

But a nice way is you use LCB, then use stoop and wait for CD to run out then recast LCB. mob should be dead on 2nd LCB. If still not dead you have 2 options: use hiss and either wait for CD or run lol, ooooor use lope and run lol.

[SilverCrow88]

LOL its like hit and run tactics then     

and that LCB is like mini Arrow Storm Ranger   

[ThunderDragon]

Basically lol, as a phys build you have plenty of diverse skills. Savage spirit (still can't figure out the mechanics) hits for a single target but sometimes it hits a mob so not sure why the variance for that is.

And yup mini AS skills since it's an AoE 7x7 versus AS 15x15? That's why when I was doing mob lvling in mid right side necklace and left side switch between bunny and earthworm, since the bunny you need doram set + grass necklace and the bunny for increased LCB dmg. While earthworm is strictly for PP cast and dmg

[SilverCrow88]

ooo that means to trigger LCB burst damage need Doram set and Bunny is it? 

 

Gonna farm those really hard then with High Lvl char 

[ThunderDragon]

Yup my gears in mid TI which I was soloing
+ 9 maestro rwh
Mid w/e your preference
Toy syringe
+9 doram armor clean
+10 double kingbrid fine foxtail
+12 MBS
+9 immune doram mant
+9 superior doram shoes
Earthworm/bunny charm
Grass necklace

With the bunny my LCB did around 32-35k on mobs with arcoulze dash

With single earthworm I was going 32-40k PP

[SilverCrow88]

holy..... those gears O_O    I really want your gears :F

 

anyway ok and i hope those doram extra gears i can get those tokens :x

[Penguins]

Anyone know how much the skills are based off str/dex?

 

LCB is based off attack as your main dmg point and it's also a ranged skill so dex will also increase the damage. PP is based off range and attack damage.

[Ashuckel]

Skills are based on your ATK and thats it, there's no stat on any of their formulas.

Dex has no effect other than Chubby Earthworm accessory to boost picky peck.

Being a ranged skill has nothing to do with dex boosting it.

The weapons still scale with STR, dex will contribute exclusively with a minor portion of status atk, ranged bonus from FAW or menblatt card, and Hit rate. Chubby Earthworm gives a bonus to picky peck based on dex, but the skills themselves have nothing to do with dex.

Edited by Ashuckel, 21 February 2017 - 07:14 AM.

[SilverCrow88]

wait so all the skills have no effect increase damage from droam skills? O_O

[stoenr]

dex is good at low levels with the crap weapons.  but if you have the good stuff str comes in play big time.

Edited by stoenr, 21 February 2017 - 05:58 PM.

[SilverCrow88]

ow dang   no wonder some ppl make their status different in other forums