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#1 Titus1987

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 11:13 AM

Well in any other class threat there are some builds listed but until now i didnt found basic builds for Doram in here.

I mean i know for GX for example there is the DD build or the RC build.

 

But i dont even know what stats do i need to focus on Doram.

Is that a magic class wich needs lots of Int and Dex like Warlock for example or is it needing STR+Dex+Vit like RK for example?

Or just Dex like Ranger?

 

Whats the playable builds for that?

What skill builds?

 

What equip for what build there.

 

Its totaly strange to see noone in here seems to know a thing about Doram...there are just random disscussions-.-

 

So if anyone would be so ni´ce and helpfull to create an guide that would help a lot.

 

Thx for that ^^

 

PS : A area level guide for that class would be nice too^^

 

thx to the hero who might lighten up the darkness of inexperience^^


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#2 stoenr

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 11:40 AM

err doram just got released last week so no one can make a 100% for sure guidebook on this class.  were all going by leveling experience and available gears.

 

STR/DEX for ranged.

INT/DEX for magical.

some VIT

AGI depending on the build.

 

AGI is benefical for ranged for sure and maybe magical if they fix the steam spear accessory.

 

Leveling:

start by getting to 100---->nogg2 (farm level 100 gear) to 120ish with some mid ti---->at 126 go do the scarabs bounty board (farm level 140 gear) if u can with some high-ti----->141-150+ do the NCT bounty board or go make Aco a rich man by buying his bio4 leech.


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 01:46 PM

People know builds, it's quite simple actually.

Personally, I don't want to reward lazy people with a cookie cutter build when they don't read the threads here.

It's very difficult to help when you don't post what gear you have access to, because physical will vary greatly depending.


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 02:42 PM

Its totaly strange to see noone in here seems to know a thing about Doram...there are just random disscussions-.-

 

So if anyone would be so ni´ce and helpfull to create an guide that would help a lot.

 

Well i will try to be nice, sorry if i fail in my try since this kind of comment dont deserve at all.

 

As you can see (or not) everyone are posting here to check bugs, errors, gears, try to find formulas, even videos and share with the community to can make guides and show what is more viable, kRO dont have any formula to show to their public iRO seems the same way, so everyone wasting his money and time to know everything, at least for now we can say there are 3 options

 

Magical (CN Meteor AoE damage / SV Stem Spear Single target)

Physical (Lunatic Carrot Beat AoE damage / Picky Peck Single target)

Support (Bunch of Shrimp AoE Boost damage / Tuna Party Single target barrier)

 

For now seems the most popular is the physical build since picky peck is really a insane damage even in lv 100, Magical is good too, but since CN Meteor have a huge Fixed Cast time make less popular, of course you can upgrade Doram set to make more fast and last the support one, i still dont see any full support one (maybe Marty will be the chosen one) but i can tell you the support one cant die, if you want to know why, then make one.

 

well there are more info about then, but like i say you dont deserve, read all threads.


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#5 Titus1987

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 02:43 PM

well lets say...zeny shouldnt be a problem to get gears for Doram.

And i would read the Threats IF they would be usefull.

There is no reason in reading a post about is the skill usefull or not .

 

I read Threats like i did for gx and other jobs so i worked hard to get the equipment and so on.

 

But in Doram threat there is no build topic-.-


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 02:53 PM

well lets say...zeny shouldnt be a problem to get gears for Doram.

And i would read the Threats IF they would be usefull.

There is no reason in reading a post about is the skill usefull or not .

 

I read Threats like i did for gx and other jobs so i worked hard to get the equipment and so on.

 

But in Doram threat there is no build topic-.-

 

There are plenty, go through the small number of threads and actually read them.


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#7 Titus1987

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 03:30 PM

*small* number of threats?

 

Amongluttony thx btw.

At least someone giving good clear answers to a question^^


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 03:37 PM

some people will be offended by OP statements, especially when they tried their hardest to find bugs, playstyle and skill details such as cooldown, cast time, gears and synergies.

physical:
str: high 90+
dex: high 90+ (try in multiple of 6)
vit: moderate high 70+
agi: low - moderate (depends on need, high will affect spamability of picky peck on strings)
int: low
luk: moderate (for atk and hit and flee)

magic:
int: high 90+
dex: high 90+
vit: high 90+ (since you need to tank for CNM cast time)
luk: moderate (for extra matk)
str: low (for weight limit)
agi: low

support:
int: moderate high 70+
dex: moderate high 70+
vit: high 90+
str: low moderate (for weight limit)
agi: low
luk; low

currently im running magic-support hybrid: 120 int, 100 vit, 80 dex, 58 luk and 1 agi.

Edited by fuyukikun, 25 February 2017 - 04:07 PM.

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 03:48 PM

*small* number of threats?

 

Amongluttony thx btw.

At least someone giving good clear answers to a question^^

 

Literally 2 pages worth, that is about 10minutes of reading time.

 

And you give off a vibe of impatience and unappreciation for the efforts given by others here.


Edited by Nirvanna21, 25 February 2017 - 04:00 PM.

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 03:48 PM

i dont think anyone is really offended.  its just you have to level up and figure stuff out because only a few ppl have 2x kiel and a not everyone has +12 hwhb to use.  theres no easy way out with this class because you will get hit alot by monsters even at level 125+.


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 04:23 PM

I'm not offended. It's just hard to give advice when you didn't really provide any information.

Do you want to go physical or what?

Also, when you say zeny isn't an issue, can you buy MvP cards?

I wasn't trying to be an ass to you, but the threads here will really provide a lot of insight if you take the time to read.
Knowledge is more valuable than any item in the game. You don't need crazy items to succeed either, Stoenr and others have really crushed lvling.


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 04:27 PM

Physical

STR: High(90+)

AGI:Moderate(60 is fine, it's for our flee and animation delay)

VIT:Moderate(70 is fine)

INT:Low(40 is fine, its for SP pool. it's not really worth it to spend that much for physical)

DEX:High(90+, for additional damage)

Luk:Moderate(for additional damage and flee, but I suggest this will be the last one to get)

 

Magical

STR:Low(1-30 for carrying capacity)

AGI:Moderate/ low (You don't need agi that much)

VIT:High(95 for stun immunity, doram have +5 vit bonus on their job)

INT:High(90+

Dex: moderate to high

Luk:moderate

 

Support

(the same as Magical)

 

My current build is Pure physical which I follow STR:90+ ,Agi:60 , Vit:70 ,Int :40 ,Dex:90+ and the rest are luk, I still leveling my doram.

For equipments, its either you go straight to complete your doram set or use alternative equipments, but I do recommend to use doram set in order for you to have a

phen effect(uninterruptable cast),especially if you are a magical doram(because these guys have long casting times, you can reduce the casting time using kiel cards but it is still a pain)

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 25 February 2017 - 04:29 PM

Do not get int on a physical build, it's useless.

Bad advice is worse than no advice.


I would do something like

110 str
120 dex
8x-9x vit
100+ agi
Rest in luk

You can get higher str or agi if you feel the need. Agi will greatly vary depending on having access to things like Kiels.
Also, agi is pretty amazing when lvling because you can flee most things, but like Stoenr said, expect to get hit.
I would suggest getting 50 vit early on just to have some nice potting efficiency and general survival. You want to go full offensive so you can 1 shot most things, then balance your agi. I got 100 str early with around 50 agi and vit, then finished my dex off and started pumping agi again. It's up to you though.


Nirvanna or Fuyu, etc. can give you examples of magic.


Edited by Myzery, 25 February 2017 - 04:34 PM.

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#14 Titus1987

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 04:32 PM

well 1. thx for the good answers^^

2. i appreciate the spend work from the ppl who figured out how to play the class .

But like i said its not about the reading it is more about that every class has her own threats where exactly detailed job builds are listed in.

 

Btw if i may sound rude thats cuz i am just coming back from a long looooong break from playing ragnarok.

I didnt knew the class just came out last week sry for being impatient then^^

 

And well my GX wearing equip worth around 3 billion zeny...and still its hard to lv up after reaching Lv 150...so well i am used to play hard classes (hard classes in my oppinion = every non aoe class beyond lv 150)

So well i*ll see what the class is like as long as i know at least a build i can jump in and have fun with the class.


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 06:48 PM

I agree that the OP was rude, but I also don't have the necessary patience to search through the labyrinth of posts that the Doram section has become in such a short time. I need a bread-and-butter scheme to follow, as those Stat Points can't get resetted so easily once I start putting them in.

 

@Myzery gave me some cool pointers on how to make a physical Doram, so maybe I'll go that route.


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#16 Titus1987

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 07:45 AM

Ive tryed the Physical Doram.

Have 60 str...60 agi...50 dex...30 vit currently.

Well i am using high end quip....so i already have 183 Aspd on him and 21 crit....crit distand dmg currently is around 800...at lv 78


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Posted 04 March 2017 - 02:27 PM

I have no problem going like this for magic doram:

 

INT120

VIT 100 - 120

STR 50 (purely my ideal carrying capacity)

LUK whatevers left

 

If there is an issue with it then its only with you, its working perfectly fine for me, and it should considering im playing the doram my way. Everyone else plays differently.


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Posted 05 March 2017 - 09:13 AM

Yeah, basically all Doram builds are viable.
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Posted 06 March 2017 - 01:46 PM

Do not get int on a physical build, it's useless.

Bad advice is worse than no advice.


I would do something like

110 str
120 dex
8x-9x vit
100+ agi
Rest in luk

You can get higher str or agi if you feel the need. Agi will greatly vary depending on having access to things like Kiels.
Also, agi is pretty amazing when lvling because you can flee most things, but like Stoenr said, expect to get hit.
I would suggest getting 50 vit early on just to have some nice potting efficiency and general survival. You want to go full offensive so you can 1 shot most things, then balance your agi. I got 100 str early with around 50 agi and vit, then finished my dex off and started pumping agi again. It's up to you though.


Nirvanna or Fuyu, etc. can give you examples of magic.

 

I think I'll start working towards this for now, I'm around lvl 75 and have around 80 dex 60 str I think and the rest into agi right now, just doing the payon bounty TI's till I can get to 100 and swap out gear


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Posted 06 March 2017 - 01:49 PM

Dorams have actually better Flee than GXes, as their passive gives 20 and Arclouse dash 40 agi(40 flee), oposed to GX "only" 40 flee passive
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Posted 06 March 2017 - 05:21 PM

Is anyone trying to be a Critty Kitty ^_^?


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Posted 06 March 2017 - 05:29 PM

You can hitlock with a Doram but without that lovely warg it would be a bit meh, a huge damage loss :U


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:57 AM

Did someone try leveling a physical doram without spirit of life? Is it viable?
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Posted 08 March 2017 - 12:00 PM

just takes twice as long lol


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#25 Titus1987

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 07:47 AM

My Physical Doram now is Lv 102/50

Has around 102 Str....99 dex...rest is int/Vit.

 

Ive activated the whole Physical Skill tree.

And i am using currently Doram Set Lv 100 with ranger card set in it + Archer Skeleton Card

Its dealing quit a lot of dmg^^


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