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[Nirvanna21]

So finally got around to getting two of these accessories to test them out.

 

So here is a screen shot proving that damage works.

 

 

As for the cast delay, the accessories also work.

 

The issue is that it isn't all variable cast, it has somewhere between 0.4 to 0.8 seconds in fixed cast delay, proven after I took my +6 Doram set on and off. The accessories work as intended, but the skill clearly is not if kRO indeed gets instant cast.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 25 February 2017 - 09:41 PM.

[Tofu]

Do you mean cast delay or variable cast reduction?

 

Hopefully they look into fixing the cast time of the skill then.

[stoenr]

if its instacast on kro then its supposed to be all variable like picky peck.  hopefully they fix this.

[Nirvanna21]

Do you mean cast delay or variable cast reduction?

 

Hopefully they look into fixing the cast time of the skill then.

 

if its instacast on kro then its supposed to be all variable like picky peck.  hopefully they fix this.

 

The accessory reduces variable cast time, which it does perfectly, but the skill includes fixed cast time. I am unsure if the kRO equivalent includes the fixed cast time or not, but everything else is working as intended.

 

The accessory was never meant to reduce any skill usage delay or cooldown that I am aware of, only the variable casting.

 

I merely believe that kROs version of the skill does not include the fixed casting time, but someone else will have to prove this.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 25 February 2017 - 08:12 PM.

[Joatmon]

The set reduces fixed cast time by .1s an upgrade. For SV to instacast the set has to be upgraded high enough.

[Cleofe]

This acce supposed to insta cast sv stem and also make damage 100% more thats it, it should be fixed end of story

Picky peck seems to be working perfectly and we don't want any less than that with magic doram

[Nirvanna21]

The set reduces fixed cast time by .1s an upgrade. For SV to instacast the set has to be upgraded high enough.

 

No, it reduces it by 15~25% plus an additional 1% per upgrade of the set.

 

This acce supposed to insta cast sv stem and also make damage 100% more thats it, it should be fixed end of story

Picky peck seems to be working perfectly and we don't want any less than that with magic doram

 

I asked Camp for details regarding the Doram skills, also gave him some results from testing the skill. The accessory works for both variable cast time and damage, but it also contains fixed cast time. The question is, does kRO have the same?

[Cleofe]

No, it reduces it by 15~25% plus an additional 1% per upgrade of the set.


I asked Camp for details regarding the Doram skills, also gave him some results from testing the skill. The accessory works for both variable cast time and damage, but it also contains fixed cast time. The question is, does kRO have the same?

Ok but, If it have fct, then why is fenrir card not reducing it?

[Nirvanna21]

Ok but, If it have fct, then why is fenrir card not reducing it?

 

I don't have a fenrir card so I couldn't possibly say, I just know that using the Doram set reduces the cast event further in milliseconds.

[Cleofe]

I don't have a fenrir card so I couldn't possibly say, I just know that using the Doram set reduces the cast event further in milliseconds.

You can try with sacrament, that should be close enough should be able to see the difference if any xD

Edited by Cleofe, 26 February 2017 - 11:04 AM.

[Nirvanna21]

You can try with sacrament, that should be close enough should be able to see the difference if any xD

 

I don't have an AB.

 

Sacrament makes a difference, but pretty sure it overrides the Doram set bonus, so the same could be said with Fenrir, either way it does seem to make a difference, but it could just be a placebo effect honestly, I do a 0.2 cast with sacrament and 2x Accessory.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 26 February 2017 - 12:06 PM.

[fuyukikun]

wonder how much int needed per increase of the damage. as of earthworms, it is 1% more picky peck dmg per 6 base dex.

[stoenr]

1% yes in the description at least.. how much damage do you do with stem spear to big bells with ur current setup?

Edited by stoenr, 26 February 2017 - 01:29 PM.

[Ashuckel]

it's 1% per lvl of stem spear every 6 int(dex for picky peck) , so 5% each 6 if you maxed.

[stoenr]

ahh yea was wondering where i screwed up cuz its way more than 20% per acc. 120 dex is 100% each acc.

[Cleofe]

I don't have an AB.

Sacrament makes a difference, but pretty sure it overrides the Doram set bonus, so the same could be said with Fenrir, either way it does seem to make a difference, but it could just be a placebo effect honestly, I do a 0.2 cast with sacrament and 2x Accessory.

70% from fenrir is a lot, I don't see much difference when I wear fenrir. That is why I still think something is wrong, I mean even with sacra the difference should be big. But it seems not the case for now. And btw im not using doram set so i tried not wearing fenrir and with fenrir. Did not notice any difference.

Edited by Cleofe, 26 February 2017 - 03:24 PM.

[Nirvanna21]

70% from fenrir is a lot, I don't see much difference when I wear fenrir. That is why I still think something is wrong, I mean even with sacra the difference should be big. But it seems not the case for now. And btw im not using doram set so i tried not wearing fenrir and with fenrir. Did not notice any difference.

 

Because it isn't be a huge delay in total, 70% of little is less than little I did the testing and it made a difference, about 170ms between a +6 Doram Set and Suffragium.

Edited by Nirvanna21, 26 February 2017 - 03:32 PM.

[stoenr]

.2 seconds doesnt seem all that bad.  kinda like dragon breath with temporal dex on?  also, how long is the cooldown for stem spear?

[Nirvanna21]

.2 seconds doesnt seem all that bad.  kinda like dragon breath with temporal dex on?  also, how long is the cooldown for stem spear?

 

The entire delay is about 0.4~0.5 seconds, in terms of fixed cast. A full doram set is perfectly fine to use to reduce it. I mean instant cast nowadays would only be useful if it could be spammed.

[Cleofe]

Because it isn't be a huge delay in total, 70% of little is less than little I did the testing and it made a difference, about 170ms between a +6 Doram Set and Suffragium.

I got morethan 530 points dex and int also i am wearing two acce. So the vct part is gone, now fct part with and without fenrir is like the same. The cast is like half bar without fenrir and same with fenrir, even if little was fct still you take 70% of whats left should be very noticeable

[Nirvanna21]

Sounds like you are just doing this by eye alone, try using a timer.

[Cleofe]

Sounds like you are just doing this by eye alone, try using a timer.

Ok. Yes noticed a difference in timer hmmm but ah

So yeah the question is it the same with kRO

[Nirvanna21]

Ok. Yes noticed a difference in timer hmmm but ah

So yeah the question is it the same with kRO

 

Probably, I mean they have special enchants which reduce fixed cast time by X seconds rather than %.

[Ashuckel]

the thing is, it was instant cast on Sakray with 2 of those.

[Nirvanna21]

the thing is, it was instant cast on Sakray with 2 of those.

 

Problem with Sakray is, there are skills that are missing effects as well, and some that are not working as intended, the core sakray build isn't reliable enough to use as a resource :X