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[stoenr]

seems after each CN Meteor or SV Stem Spear you cast you get a free speed pot. its not that bad for mobbing at low levels, tbh it makes it a little more bearable.

update: also the land buffs included.

Edited by stoenr, 28 February 2017 - 08:46 PM.

[fuyukikun]

but im not giving up my tuna skills for that :'(

[Nirvanna21]

but im not giving up my tuna skills for that :'(

 

I keep feeling tempted to break away from that, especially for the 50% MDEF ignore, but the Tuna Party skill is just so nice.

[stoenr]

ill probably use a neuralizer once i hit 140.  its rather nice mobbing in nogg2 and mid-ti for the moment.

[CadburyChocolate]

How does SV Stem Spear autocast from CN Meteor? 

 

1. Is the chance 100%?

2. If 100% chance, does it occur for every hit? or Does it occur more than once per monster per CN meteor?

3. What is the element of SV Stem Spear autocasted? (my guess is just neutral but need confirmation)

[stoenr]

How does SV Stem Spear autocast from CN Meteor? 

 

1. Is the chance 100%?

2. If 100% chance, does it occur for every hit? or Does it occur more than once per monster per CN meteor?

3. What is the element of SV Stem Spear autocasted? (my guess is just neutral but need confirmation)

 

just did a little testing on firelock soldiers:

 

1. It didn't proc at 100% maybe due to the short window.  The window is small I'm guessing within the first 2-3 seconds of CN meteor going off.  It does proc quite often tho.

2. Yes every hit.  I've had it hit a single monster twice.  Also had it proc from melee attacks when I was position bugged.

3. Your guess is probably correct.
 

Without the Shining branch the stem spears are kindof weak so its not something to rely on from my experience so far.  And if your going that route you're probably not going to be casting CN meteor to kill whatever it is.

 

Update:  it seems to proc on any hit close or ranged.

 

Update 2: im defaulting 2 branches right now rather than the meteor accs because meteor is strong for whatever im killing at level 104 and stem spear procs A LOT on hits.

Edited by stoenr, 01 March 2017 - 03:26 AM.

[Cleofe]

I keep feeling tempted to break away from that, especially for the 50% MDEF ignore, but the Tuna Party skill is just so nice.

What exactly is 50% mdef ignore?

[Amongluttony]

What exactly is 50% mdef ignore?

 

Nyang Grass, reduce 50% DEF and MDEF from monsters and 100% from players

[CadburyChocolate]

just did a little testing on firelock soldiers:

 

1. It didn't proc at 100% maybe due to the short window.  The window is small I'm guessing within the first 2-3 seconds of CN meteor going off.  It does proc quite often tho.

2. Yes every hit.  I've had it hit a single monster twice.  Also had it proc from melee attacks when I was position bugged.

3. Your guess is probably correct.
 

Without the Shining branch the stem spears are kindof weak so its not something to rely on from my experience so far.  And if your going that route you're probably not going to be casting CN meteor to kill whatever it is.

 

Update:  it seems to proc on any hit close or ranged.

 

Update 2: im defaulting 2 branches right now rather than the meteor accs because meteor is strong for whatever im killing at level 104 and stem spear procs A LOT on hits.

Thanks for the info, this opens new option for me. Magic summoner without actually using the set, only the SV stem accessories prolonging CN meteors cast time could also be an option. 

Edited by CadburyChocolate, 01 March 2017 - 09:01 PM.

[Cleofe]

So for pvp and woe what does this spirit of land actually do for a SV stem build?

Does it add damage or just as described which is makes you get the speed pot effect after casting SV stem?

[stoenr]

you get the speed pot effect casting any skill including the buffs.  also it has taken out mobs when CNM missed due to position lag.  i guess it can be used for crowd control or a barrier between stem spears.

[Cleofe]

you get the speed pot effect casting any skill including the buffs. also it has taken out mobs when CNM missed due to position lag. i guess it can be used for crowd control or a barrier between stem spears.

So it does boost SV stem damage?

[Ashuckel]

No

[Tofu]

Shouldn't casting Silvervine Root and Nyang Grass increase your matk temporarily?

[Ashuckel]

For 3seconds '-', and not worth the amount of points you'd need to invest.

Besides, pretty sure he wants to know if the skill itself directly affects SV Stem Spear

[stoenr]

no damage increase for stem spear but say ur getting attacked by a bunch ppl in woe/pvp from range after u cast CNM you will see spears going everywhere.

[ShoLin]

Are you going to be able to do that often is the question.

[Cleofe]

Even if your not getting attacked, just when someone got hit by cnm sv stem will autocast. This is good build for woe

[stoenr]

We haven't seen a 175 magic doram with a good elegant set yet in action yet so its hard to tell.  I guess they can be pretty good emp protectors or used as a aoe.  Dropping nyang grass then meteor on top of the 7x7 would be pretty strong and if anyone tries to attack from outside they get stem speared.  We also have to wait and see how good stem spear is on its own with a yellow magic foxtail. 

[Nirvanna21]

Don't have to wait, I did make a calc after all :X

[Ashuckel]

And then gtb :v

Well, RKs are the one thing magic doram will rarelly drop. Aside from the huge hp pool, 200 mdef is no joke.

Edited by Ashuckel, 06 March 2017 - 01:51 PM.

[stoenr]

One thing is you probably don't have to carry that many speed pots hehe.