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#1 ShinobiEX3

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 03:13 PM

Why are poison bottle prices extremely high?

It feels like pre renewal and honestly i feel a bit nostalgic looking at such prices.

Did something happen to investments?


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#2 Ilindith

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 03:24 PM

Probably to make up for lost profit on other items.

 

Had not touched investment for more than a year and decided to give it a try about two months ago.

 

Felt like item probability had changed a lot on the good items and for some reason unknown to me all the WOE consumables sell for next to nothing now compared to what they used to.

 

So, getting more useless items instead of good ones + many rewards being worth less probably drove prices up on items still in high demand to make up for it.

 

I recall being able to nearly double what I used to invest but that time I could barely earn a little more than what I spent.


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 05:02 PM

nothing, just more people chugging the bottle at a faster rate while less people doing investment

 

Basically, for investment items

 

Prices high-->people go investment instead of B --> more supply, prices drop --> people stop investing --> prices high again

 


Edited by CadburyChocolate, 19 March 2017 - 05:05 PM.

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 05:16 PM

This began when Snakeskin/EMB exchanging introduced.

 

The highest chance(5%), most profit and high demand item you could get from investment system is old purple box(OPB)

OPB is mainly used to exchange EMB (5 to 1), EMB is used to exchange Magical stone (8 to1)

When EMB supply increased OPB's price drop.

Investors can't sell their OPB especially when people expect the price would drop more.

So what do we do?

Although the chance to get Poison Bottle Box isn't high(1.25%) but its very high demanding people would buy it even at higher price.

 

I look forward to magical stone and OPB's price stable.

If magical stone stop at 4m, OPB might stop at 100,000 and the cost of poison bottle would be 40,000 per bottle

People might sell at 50,000~60,000 per bottle for their labor that reasonable.

 

If magical stone and OPB keep flooding and drop more then 4m/100,000, the highest price of poison bottle might be 100,000~120,000 per bottle and I believe people would still buy.

And brewing business would boom. The down part of this is newbie unfriendly.

 

If you don't sell OPB or it's unsalable then the cost of poison bottle would be 60,000 per bottle

 

Already made proposal and i quit invest now because the market is too unstable for my taste

 

 


Edited by sunnydoll, 19 March 2017 - 05:21 PM.

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 09:10 PM

Definitely a combination of:

1. Demand for Poison Bottle is increasing

2. OPB price, the one that evens out the investment are worth less

3. Other investment items such as WoE Pots being at lower demand.

The only thing worth doing investment for right now, that is quite liquid would be Poison Bottles and Food Ingredients. Other stuffs (except for Slims/Royal Jellies/Blue Herbs box, 4 leaf clovers) are kinda meh


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 09:28 PM

chaos market drama 2.0:

START


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 09:57 PM

chaos market drama 2.0:

START

 

No, it's a puzzle interesting to solve :rice:


Edited by sunnydoll, 19 March 2017 - 09:57 PM.

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:13 PM

late Side effects of EXP event?

Major bot got banned?

hacking not working in iRO better machine upgrade?  


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Posted 19 March 2017 - 10:39 PM

Simple reason of when Investment machine's profit from OPB got eliminated, people stop doing it. Afterall OPBs were contributing for about a good 50% of the profits from investing.


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 01:47 AM

it's simply matter, either demand too high or supply too low

 

nah last time i seeing high inflation of poison bottle is cause by closed investment due to WOE event and the price only up to 35-45K ea

 

imo, nowdays no extreme situation like woe invesment closed and the price go up to 70K. either people less motivated to doing invesment cause profit so low or increased amount of poison bottle buyer

 

but it doesn't matter, people still buy whatever the price as long as they need it. it only hurt people with no purchasing power 


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 06:18 AM

to control prices... Implement PARA Market?


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Posted 20 March 2017 - 07:02 AM

Even the aloes and YGGs are having stock problems,
 


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#13 Ashuckel

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 07:10 AM

bots are quiting gg :v


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#14 ChakriGuard

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 07:23 AM

Like Asketchup already said, boys quitting.

Forced newbies to quit, then so-called veterans also quit. Now bots also quitting hahaha #Justice

It's all good. We are moving to Classic world, an parallel world in a distant universe to save the innocent xD
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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:29 PM

No, it's a puzzle interesting to solve :rice:

 

As Professor Layton once said: "There is no puzzle, without a solution".


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Posted 23 March 2017 - 05:59 PM

Marty, Who's that lady used as your profile picture?

 

Is that your Daughter? your Mistressssus? your Xellie Lover ? :p_laugh:


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Posted 23 March 2017 - 07:06 PM

Hokage spotted


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Posted 23 March 2017 - 11:55 PM

The price is 120k right now. I just cannot play my GX anymore. Someone is buying all the bottles on the market at any price and re selling @ +50%.....

 

B>poison bottle 45k


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:43 AM

someome are buying low cost and make them increase by selling high CM should investigate and punish this kind of people
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Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:46 AM

someome are buying low cost and make them increase by selling high CM should investigate and punish this kind of people


What's there to punish? People are free to manipulate the market like that, if u don't like the price, don't buy, go craft your own, it's not a scam, how many posts will it take for people to realize this lol
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Posted 24 March 2017 - 06:48 AM

Or it could just be players are buying more poison bottles than what people have available.

 

There is no incentive to sell at cheaper prices if everyone just keeps super lowballing with buy shops.  Try setting up a buy shop at market average.


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:10 AM

or you could go directly to investment machine and figure out urself why its price is high


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:25 AM

What's there to punish? People are free to manipulate the market like that, if u don't like the price, don't buy, go craft your own, it's not a scam, how many posts will it take for people to realize this lol


if things go by that way only force people to buy expensive poison bottle but your reply make me think you are the one who manipulate price market
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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:29 AM

if things go by that way only force people to buy expensive poison bottle but your reply make me think you are the one who manipulate price market


I wish I was, unfortunately I have the same problem with them being too expensive for my gx, but i also realize they aren't scamming, they just have more of a risk business sense than I do, nor do I have the time to watch the market for cheap ones, because I work most of the day, so I miss out

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 07:46 AM

I wish I was, unfortunately I have the same problem with them being too expensive for my gx, but i also realize they aren't scamming, they just have more of a risk business sense than I do, nor do I have the time to watch the market for cheap ones, because I work most of the day, so I miss out

 

for me i will not buy it EDP only increase your attack about 3 times than a normal attack only those who go for MVP need it people who do normal lving can upgrade their aspd and weapon and use buff food which i saw today str+20 for 30k,IF waste 120k per bottle for 1 min effect i rather buy oridecon to poke my weapon


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