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#1 flyingbeer

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 10:33 PM

as above


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#2 KingAbel

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 11:16 PM

I'm going to throw up if one dropped for you


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#3 JadeMountain

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 02:16 AM

anything above GTB and TAO is measured by desperation, not zeny.

if you really want a range-->somewhere between 2GTB and 2 TAO,  lol


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 06:02 AM

anything above GTB and TAO is measured by desperation, not zeny.

 

Lesson learned for life. So very true.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 06:39 AM

i think he traded his tao for that card. If that card really more than 2GTB or 2TAO. Means he won the trade.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 08:11 AM

The card is a novelty, I hope you didn't trade your Tao for it because you were severely ripped off.

It is worth what someone would pay for it, but it probably isn't worth over 10b. I would probably compare it in price to a Valk card.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 08:25 AM

The card is a novelty, I hope you didn't trade your Tao for it because you were severely ripped off.

It is worth what someone would pay for it, but it probably isn't worth over 10b. I would probably compare it in price to a Valk card.

 

Absolutely agreed.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 08:30 AM

The card is a novelty, I hope you didn't trade your Tao for it because you were severely ripped off.

It is worth what someone would pay for it, but it probably isn't worth over 10b. I would probably compare it in price to a Valk card.

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#9 SeikenDensetsu

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 09:45 AM

kind of feels like this jademountain char is totally out to fluff up the prices of some items, giving ridiculous offers and out of the world price checks.

 

mind telling us who you really are?


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#10 KingAbel

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 10:36 AM

All he does is post in MVP card threads.  And his posts are reliably complete bull-_-.  Check out his posting history if you would like to see more. 


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#11 Usernamedenied

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 02:56 PM

I saw someone selling one in eden for 80b a few months ago. Have no clue what happened to it. I highly doubt it's worth 80b/2gtb/2tgk though. I can't put a price on it either, since I think it is useless.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 03:04 PM

Can anyone provide info on what this card does ? I remember kRO has changed the original effect and that's what divine pride is showing.


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#13 JadeMountain

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 08:38 PM

I think the 80B in 1F was fenrris? that auction was very hot.  TWO 10B? lol   i will buy all ur TWO for 10B ea.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 09:30 PM

I think the 80B in 1F was fenrris? that auction was very hot.  TWO 10B? lol   i will buy all ur TWO for 10B ea.

 

What are you going to use it for that's going to command that price? No offense, but you didn't know what BDM stood for and you didn't know the effect of some of the cards you were trying to buy in the past.


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 09:39 PM

I think the 80B in 1F was fenrris? that auction was very hot.  TWO 10B? lol   i will buy all ur TWO for 10B ea.

Pretty sure it's a two card. As for the price of  this card, no one really knows since the card is so new. If you're willing to buy all two cards for 10b, then that is the minimum price of the card. Whether anyone else is willing to pay the same price is anyone's guess.


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 12:40 AM

I really sure he traded his tao for T.W.O card. When he got Tao, I offered 40b as starting offer. I pmed him in forum for update like everyday, asking what is the latest offer. Someone get T.W.O card and posted it on chaos market group in FB. Base on the effect, T.W.O and Buwaya card is the same in concept (T.W.O is referring on mana leak percentage at specific AOE coverage). The last pm on the guy, he replied on me he traded his tao already for T.W.O. To make sure about the price. Try to sell that T.W.O card for 40b. Lets see if someone will pm you to buy it. Because when you post tao for 40b, many will buy it on that price including me and it will sold like less than an hour.


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#17 SeikenDensetsu

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 12:42 AM

lol just cos someone traded something worth something for something worth nothing (relatively), doesn't mean that should be accepted as the standard o.O


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 12:49 AM

Personally I think 3~7b.

 

While the concept seems awesome for WoE, it's both chance based which means it is not 100%, and it is only applicable to short ranged attacks.

 

Now if the chances were 20%+ and it was physical attacks, THEN you have a card worth more than 30b.

 

But it isn't, so w/e if people wanna offer what they want, then let them but don't try pretend the card is worth -_-loads because of the effect, it ain't optimised enough :X


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 05:26 AM

Come on guys, lets stick to the topics. So, since the OP ask for a price check, I would put it in the range of 5b. I can't even begin think that it can be value near a Fenris or even gtb. But if JadeMountain is the same guy on ropd then I would trade that t w o card for gtb or tao =P


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 06:25 AM

Let's break this down a slightly different way:

There are 2 potential major scenarios you would use any item in: PvM/MVPing, and PvP/WoE


1. PvM/MVPing:

  • SP Drain has no effect on monsters
  • 10% Atk is inferior to any race/size card, Abysmal Knight, and Turtle General
  • Does not make weapon unbreakable like Valk Randgris

The only thing it offers in terms of PvM/MVPing is that it works on all races/sizes, even though it's inferior to any other card that offers the same thing. From this, the price should be lower than both Valk Randris and Turtle General.

 

2. PvP/WoE

  • SP Drain is a skill proc, which means it won't proc on skills. This limits the use to fast melee characters, or reflecting damage in some way
  • Weapon card limits this to one class, or maybe a small handful if it's in something generic like a dagger.
  • 10% atk is still inferior to similar options, and doesn't make weapon unbreakable

Here, the 10% atk is kind of useless. If you're using it to reflect, the extra atk does no good. If you're not reflecting, doing an extra ~6% more damage is ok, but not worth sacrificing double hp from a tao or triple dps from kiels.

From an unreliable source, it appears to be a 5% chance to proc, plus 1% per 3 refine in the weapon. In a +15 weapon, it would be a 10% proc rate. Not horrible, but it also means on average it's proccing less than once per second even on a max aspd character.

 

 

In terms of value in usefulness (the fact that it really only has any use in WoE), it's probably like ~2bil or less. Factoring in rarity, you might get up to 4-5bil for it. But like others before said, it's more of a novelty item than a "good" card.


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#21 KyrieDielle

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 06:39 AM

Tofu said it. GG.


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#22 RaveMaster

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Posted 28 March 2017 - 06:42 AM

rip :v


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 06:43 AM

TWO card should be worth based on what it does similar to a Buwaya card. Of course considering the rarity of TWO, possibly a 1-3b premium.

 

If you really traded Tao for it, you've just lose 35b in value at least. But at least the Tao was a drop ^_^


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Posted 28 March 2017 - 07:42 AM

Who is the lucky one that getting the tao from the trade.lucky bastad
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Posted 28 March 2017 - 08:55 AM

lol tao for two card...BEST TRADE 2017


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