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[Nirvanna21]

Paramarket will change almost nothing. The concern was botting, but I am not sure that the population is even high enough to support paramarket, let alone have a botting problem.

Since they gave us jRO boxes, might as well give us EVERYTHING kRO wants to shove our way.

 

Why :\

[Myzery]

Because that is what the majority of people want. There's pros and cons to everything, so might as well let people experience it all.

Personally, I just don't like sealed MvP cards.

[Nirvanna21]

Because that is what the majority of people want. There's pros and cons to everything, so might as well let people experience it all.

Personally, I just don't like sealed MvP cards.

 

Things are never undone with this game.

 

I argue to try keep integrity to it, because it still hasn't crossed the point of no return.

[CadburyChocolate]

but majority has different meaning in this forum

 

and if paramarket wont change anything here then just let it be esp in thor

Edited by CadburyChocolate, 29 March 2017 - 01:23 AM.

[Nirvanna21]

but majority has different meaning in this forum

 

and if paramarket wont change anything here then just let it be esp in thor

 

Thing is, it's the 50/50 forum opinion thing once again, because most of the RO userbase doesn't use the forum :X

[Kisats05]

So they shouldn't say that they won't implement things because the majority doesn't like it, since not even half the server are active here on forums (especially on Thor). I am just voicing out what is the current situation of Thor's market, I just can't stand to say nothing when in fact the economy isn't stable enough unlike Chaos. Having paramarket esp on Thor was my suggestion, so if they won't like to implement it, might as well give some sort of remedy to stabilize the market. 

[CadburyChocolate]

Thing is, it's the 50/50 forum opinion thing once again, because most of the RO userbase doesn't use the forum :X

No no, i have nothing against people claiming to be the majority or people having their selfish desires suggested, it exist in every game.But What i do not want is that iRO is soooo consciously dependent to it to escape responsibility, not just in the paramarket part but ALL of the updates coming in, to the point that the people they label as elitist already dictates the game already.

[KriticalAssassin]

The main issue of the WPS token exchange is that it is a WoE reward that hasn't really been capable of breaking even the costs of supplying a guild for WoE. And yes as some people have mentioned, this is targeted more towards Chaos since prices and such vary between Chaos and Thor.

The part of white potions having an etc version that weigh 1 would apply to all the servers though, would be a major quality of life update for brewers as well as another bit of help for guilds that brew slims for woe. Note that some people have lost motive to woe as the guilds sometimes don't feel like spending the time to gather supplies or simply can't afford that extra time.

[CadburyChocolate]

Okay ontopic,

 

On WPSystem reward,

 Only dominant guilds would benefit from those reward increases

 It won't bring any new players

 Brewing materials are pretty available in market, while this would make brewing cheaper... i doubt if top slim pots prices would still go any lower

IMO, i really think this is just another selfish request to cater someones market.

 

Also, if ever they submit to the 1 weight white potion, same request should be done for other items with more or less the same purpose. But this isnt really something that should be touched from the game

[Ashuckel]

Sigh

[KriticalAssassin]

Okay ontopic,
 
On WPSystem reward,
 Only dominant guilds would benefit from those reward increases
 It won't bring any new players
 Brewing materials are pretty available in market, while this would make brewing cheaper... i doubt if top slim pots prices would still go any lower
IMO, i really think this is just another selfish request to cater someones market.
 
Also, if ever they submit to the 1 weight white potion, same request should be done for other items with more or less the same purpose. But this isnt really something that should be touched from the game

The 1 thing I said in OP that was fine is the witch starsands prices and quantities, meaning the cost of slims wouldn't change at all. Everything else on the list what is proposed needing changes.
All a guild needs is 1 singular castle for it to pay off. The small guilds are capable of that in a dead woe scene as is.

Edited by KriticalAssassin, 29 March 2017 - 03:44 AM.

[Ashuckel]

A single person* is able to get a castle by themselves currently

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A single person* is able to get a castle by themselves currently

A single person (from a top guild,that has the equips and resources) is able to, and that is what happens now days , big guild will send one person to simply erase a small guild that is trying to hold a castle. Small guilds still dont have a chance!

 

This is a request from a top player from a top guild wanting something that will only some on top will gain from it!

Edited by 6943151004104729780, 29 March 2017 - 04:24 AM.

[Azumatsu]

that change only profit for top rank 10 alchemist

 

it just create more gap

[Ashuckel]

I cant even

[KriticalAssassin]

A single person (from a top guild,that has the equips and resources) is able to, and that is what happens now days , big guild will send one person to simply erase a small guild that is trying to hold a castle. Small guilds still dont have a chance!
 
This is a request from a top player from a top guild wanting something that will only some on top will gain from it!

My guild is 8 people... lol
And I used to woe with my guild as a 2-4 man guild
The fast of the matter is that woe castles do not provide a way to compensate for the use of supplies, for any guild, whether it be a small or big guild.
If a guild shows up to WoE they would expect to be able to pay off their guilds use of supplies, the WPS token system currently is incapable of doing that for any size guild.
My guild went from getting 1-2 castles per YEAR to getting at least 1 per woe. And in both situations it didn't compensate for what we would spend.
As a smaller guild, we used less, and got less castles, so when we did get one, it didn't match up for how much we spent total. Now we consume more supplies for more castles, but it still won't compensate on the supply cost.
So yes, a more successful/larger guild will get more, but they also spent more, and a small guild will get less, but also spent less.

that change only profit for top rank 10 alchemist

it just create more gap

You do realize the #1 ranked Alchemist on Chaos isn't even a guild brewer, right? Ren has more points than like everyone else combined, yet buys WSS with buy shops all the time.

Edited by KriticalAssassin, 29 March 2017 - 04:42 AM.

[Ashuckel]

Seems like ppl dont even know how woe is like to be saying such things

[Azumatsu]

You do realize the #1 ranked Alchemist on Chaos isn't even a guild brewer, right? Ren has more points than like everyone else combined, yet buys WSS with buy shops all the time.

but apart from ren, #2-#10 ranked alchemist is guild brewer .-.

 

how about brewer from small guild who didn't own/hold castle. there's no way they compete

 

and there's no use brew condensed potion if not reach top 10 ranked

 

just my opinion

[Ashuckel]

WSS is way more avaiable from the market than from woe castles

[KriticalAssassin]

but apart from ren, #2-#10 ranked alchemist is guild brewer .-.

 

how about brewer from small guild who didn't own/hold castle. there's no way they compete

 

and there's no use brew condensed potion if not reach top 10 ranked

 

just my opinion

They can do exactly what Ren the #1 ranked person with more points than 2-10 combined does, set up a buy shop and get sands that way.

Or they could do what I did for years, buy slims from Ren's shop or hire one of the top 10 to brew for you.

Edited by KriticalAssassin, 29 March 2017 - 05:59 AM.

[apat311]

Its in Low TI right now. Make a GX, use RC, use Greed and then go brew.

[Spoon]

A single person (from a top guild,that has the equips and resources) is able to, and that is what happens now days , big guild will send one person to simply erase a small guild that is trying to hold a castle. Small guilds still dont have a chance!

This is a request from a top player from a top guild wanting something that will only some on top will gain from it!

Lol, my friend took a castle for 2 weeks, with no woe gear and nobody to back him up....

[lorenz1375]

Uhmmm about thor

....botters rule the rank, you aint seeing any buying shops...

And uhmm yeah.. its impossible to catch up for alchemists yes yes

I can buy 24/7 and still not reach 10th yes.

[mildcontempt]

Bumping this thread in hopes it gets more attention (no more derail plz)

[KriticalAssassin]

This I wll give info soon as i grab my notes

Come up with any other additions?