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[Ozallia]

IRO1 Classic Weekly Maintenance

March 30th

2pm -6pm

 

Quests

• The next new Headgear quest, the Dark Randgris Helm, is available. Speak to Frank in Morocc (156, 194). Certificates can be found in the treasure caches.
  • To create this headgear you'll need the following:
    • 1 Blade Lost in Darkness
    • 10 Crystals of Darkness
    • 10 Sea-Otter Fur
    • 200 Steel
    • 1000 Zeny

    • Dark Randgris Helm Certificate

 

​Events

• February Lucky Box ends!
• Saint Patrick's Day event ends!

 

​Spotlight

• Instead of spotlighting a specific zone, we're doing something different this time. We're spotlighting all the fish based monsters. We feel this will scale better to player levels. Fin.

 

​Server Status: OPEN (Maintenance Complete)

[teresias]

IRO1 Classic Weekly Maintenance

March 30th

2pm -6pm

​Spotlight[/font][/color]

• Instead of spotlighting a specific zone, we're doing something different this time. We're spotlighting all the fish based monsters. We feel this will scale better to player levels. Fin.

​Server Status: OPEN (Pre-Maintenance)

Still the same up to now????

[Ozallia]

Still the same up to now????

 

Looking into changing it soon, maybe next week. Might continue with the monster type theme too. Perhaps demons next.

[needmorezleep]

if you ever do angels you may want to make a warper to the higher level floors of thanatos tower for the lesser geared since there arent many angels

[teresias]

Demi human plz

[coerce1991]

omg? why fish?! Demi human!!!!!

[Themes]

Do you have any comments to make on the last couple pages of last weeks patch notes thread? Or should we all limit our posting to the day before and the day of maintenance because those are apparently the only times the GM team pays any attention to Classic.

[Ozallia]

Do you have any comments to make on the last couple pages of last weeks patch notes thread? Or should we all limit our posting to the day before and the day of maintenance because those are apparently the only times the GM team pays any attention to Classic.

 

https://forums.warpp...kvm-on-classic/

[Themes]

You could have just said no. I was however mostly referring to this.

[zerowon]

https://forums.warpp...kvm-on-classic/

are you just profiling individual players into groups and feel they have the same opinion on every issue ?it certainly feels that way

[costameliande]

Demi human plz

 

+1 Demi human please !!!!

[SRamos]

Looking into changing it soon, maybe next week. Might continue with the monster type theme too. Perhaps demons next.

Demons and Undeads will be good!

[Ramses]

What about the mid tier cache boxes?.

[Xplay4eva]

Did you know that there is a section for Classic suggestions on the forums? Even when I had an idea, the section is very easy to overlook and forget about for some reason.

 

I was going to say that the hat needs a lot of Steel but the amount is not too bad. Its just that Steel has a lot of uses.

Edited by Xplay4eva, 31 March 2017 - 10:00 AM.

[lxst]

dont really know what to say so i'm just gonna laugh... i'm with ya themes. gone are the days of pretending to work on classic  i'm going to work.....

[Themes]

Seems like you all missed on this weeks window of opportunity to get responses.

 

See you all next Thursday for your new hat and empty "We're investigating <vague thing that will never be spoken of again>".

Edited by Themes, 31 March 2017 - 03:24 PM.

[Xellie]

ever wonder why they're not enthused to work on classic? 

[teresias]

@lxst I got tired of posting as well. Except for the small pokes. Lmao.

Yup classic suggestion and we even have headgear request thread, and people suggesting spotlights, but none of them were being considered..They gonna put what headgear they want. And spotlight things that no one is really killing.

As I've said, full of half baked projects. Where is the new janeway project? What happened now to the cache system? Are you gonna consider changing monster sprites and improving challenge dungeon? Hazy.. oh yea, our server announcement still announces "july 21 or something like that" and nothing more creative and inticing. Zz. Okay now add some more to the queue cos why not. As long as it may seem they are working on something. Yea?

[Undying]

ever wonder why they're not enthused to work on classic? 

 

I would say that Classic is probably the least profitable server they have, by a gigantic margin. Even Thor has to drastically out do Classic simply based on enriched and other OP upgrade events. Whatever brings in more cash will be the priority of their focus. 

 

If they want to make Classic actually profitable, or possibly more profitable then they need to do a serious overhaul. I would still think that a server reset is the "simplest" option for them, but they wont do that currently. They need to make things worth while to log into... I haven't been able to play WoE on any server due to school, but I'm logging into Chaos everyday.... Why? Because there are quick and easy profitable instances to do daily. Doesn't take much time and I can make 1b a week with lazy/short game play. 

 

Also this, there is constantly new gears coming out in Renewal. Since OCP has come, every single month there is a new "best of" specialty gear. Classic has default the same exact gears for years... There is no incentive to improve gears. There is no incentive to log in and do anything once you are WoE/PVP ready. There is nothing new on classic. Literally nothing new since I last logged in. I logged in the other day to find out what I have to gear my scholar with to be "caught up" with everybody. It is the same exact gears as 2-3 years ago....

 

Look, I'll make my point and I'll make it straight to the point.....

 

Classic is not and has never been truly "classic". Classic is a WP Pre-Renewal server that is it's own unique thing and should not be compared to "original" servers. The only thing that can revitalize this server, besides a reset, would be new gears. New gears = new builds = new things to do = new things to test out = new meta = new experiences...... 

 

Take it or leave it, but if you want people to actually log in and spend money on WP energy.... Give them something to do. When I haven't logged in for a couple years and literally nothing has changed.... It is sad. I play Chaos now because there is constantly new gears and constantly new metas and constantly new things to do. It is fun to do new things and have new experiences. 

 

/rant

[Campitor]

@lxst I got tired of posting as well. Except for the small pokes. Lmao.

Yup classic suggestion and we even have headgear request thread, and people suggesting spotlights, but none of them were being considered..They gonna put what headgear they want. And spotlight things that no one is really killing.

As I've said, full of half baked projects. Where is the new janeway project? What happened now to the cache system? Are you gonna consider changing monster sprites and improving challenge dungeon? Hazy.. oh yea, our server announcement still announces "july 21 or something like that" and nothing more creative and inticing. Zz. Okay now add some more to the queue cos why not. As long as it may seem they are working on something. Yea?

 

 

I would say that Classic is probably the least profitable server they have, by a gigantic margin. Even Thor has to drastically out do Classic simply based on enriched and other OP upgrade events. Whatever brings in more cash will be the priority of their focus. 

 

If they want to make Classic actually profitable, or possibly more profitable then they need to do a serious overhaul. I would still think that a server reset is the "simplest" option for them, but they wont do that currently. They need to make things worth while to log into... I haven't been able to play WoE on any server due to school, but I'm logging into Chaos everyday.... Why? Because there are quick and easy profitable instances to do daily. Doesn't take much time and I can make 1b a week with lazy/short game play. 

 

Also this, there is constantly new gears coming out in Renewal. Since OCP has come, every single month there is a new "best of" specialty gear. Classic has default the same exact gears for years... There is no incentive to improve gears. There is no incentive to log in and do anything once you are WoE/PVP ready. There is nothing new on classic. Literally nothing new since I last logged in. I logged in the other day to find out what I have to gear my scholar with to be "caught up" with everybody. It is the same exact gears as 2-3 years ago....

 

Look, I'll make my point and I'll make it straight to the point.....

 

Classic is not and has never been truly "classic". Classic is a WP Pre-Renewal server that is it's own unique thing and should not be compared to "original" servers. The only thing that can revitalize this server, besides a reset, would be new gears. New gears = new builds = new things to do = new things to test out = new meta = new experiences...... 

 

Take it or leave it, but if you want people to actually log in and spend money on WP energy.... Give them something to do. When I haven't logged in for a couple years and literally nothing has changed.... It is sad. I play Chaos now because there is constantly new gears and constantly new metas and constantly new things to do. It is fun to do new things and have new experiences. 

 

/rant

I am all too aware that we need to close the books on the old Janeway, Treasure Cache and other projects. Once we can get those knocked out would the community be willing to help Ozzalia balance a few challenge dungeons so they feel properly classic? He doesn't know this yet but I am planning to massively increase his work load in April.

[Xellie]

Depends if it's going to be the same as last time where someone decided a 900% atk skill deserved to only be used when buffed by 400% was totally okay balancewise. 

 

yeah 90k+ damage from a non boss mob was silly. 

[Campitor]

Seems like you all missed on this weeks window of opportunity to get responses.

 

See you all next Thursday for your new hat and empty "We're investigating <vague thing that will never be spoken of again>".

I realize that I am answering a really old question you asked with this. Our limitations on classic are as follows

 

• We cannot add new monsters
  • We can edit current monsters
• We cannot add new headgear looks
  • We can replace certain headgear looks to introduce better looking sprites. Usually prime candidates for this are trademarked headgears we can't use or the country themed flag hats.
• We cannot change formula
• We cannot change skill cool down
• We cannot change buff persistence.
• We cannot create new skills
• Some newer headgear types don't won't on classic
• Back items won't work on classic
• We cannot edit crafting recipes
• We can't add new pets (I think - I haven't tested this one yet.)
• We can't change skill, level, or stat caps

 

What we can

• Change monster AI within the RO Ai system
• Add new maps
• Add new items
• Add new quests
• Change monster drops
• Change monster stats

Is there is anything specific about our abilities you'd like to ask I will try to answer it this weekend.

[Undying]

I am all too aware that we need to close the books on the old Janeway, Treasure Cache and other projects. Once we can get those knocked out would the community be willing to help Ozzalia balance a few challenge dungeons so they feel properly classic? He doesn't know this yet but I am planning to massively increase his work load in April.

 

The Challenge Dungeon is a great thing. I really liked the first one. 

 

Spoiler

 

What I would prefer to see is a new update. I will be done with school in exactly a week and will have a ton off free time again... I would volunteer to help out creating a full new update. The Challenge Dung are pretty cool and the concept should stick around, maybe rotate the monsters like spotlights. With a new update though, it would be permanent which means you could introduce new gears. For example, the new MVP in the update could drop immune shields, which would be perfect for Classic. Hell, even an update to incorporate Bio 4 and have the Bio 4 MVPS drop some new gears.

 

Classic needs updates in order to survive. That is why every pre-renewal server ends, because we run out of updates before renewal hit... There are a few options.

 

-Put in renewal updates, but modify it to classic mechanics. Offer the same content though.

-Create your own unique updates. Take certain aspects from future updates (anywhere in renewals timelines), such as instances, specific gears like immune shield, towns, and MVPs to create new content so the game doesn't "end".

-Do nothing and let the game end.

 

I don't know if it is even possible to do full unique episodes, but without it I don't see a future without future content.  

 

Again, if you need help with ideas let me know. 

[Campitor]

The Challenge Dungeon is a great thing. I really liked the first one. 

 

Spoiler

 

What I would prefer to see is a new update. I will be done with school in exactly a week and will have a ton off free time again... I would volunteer to help out creating a full new update. The Challenge Dung are pretty cool and the concept should stick around, maybe rotate the monsters like spotlights. With a new update though, it would be permanent which means you could introduce new gears. For example, the new MVP in the update could drop immune shields, which would be perfect for Classic. Hell, even an update to incorporate Bio 4 and have the Bio 4 MVPS drop some new gears.

 

Classic needs updates in order to survive. That is why every pre-renewal server ends, because we run out of updates before renewal hit... There are a few options.

 

-Put in renewal updates, but modify it to classic mechanics. Offer the same content though.

-Create your own unique updates. Take certain aspects from future updates (anywhere in renewals timelines), such as instances, specific gears like immune shield, towns, and MVPs to create new content so the game doesn't "end".

-Do nothing and let the game end.

 

I don't know if it is even possible to do full unique episodes, but without it I don't see a future without future content.  

 

Again, if you need help with ideas let me know. 

Unfortunately do to limitations updates can never be permanent. Because we can't add new monsters.

[Myzery]

Are you considering KvM at all?

It's also pretty sad that you're ignoring the concerns being brought up for Renewal. It feels like you guys wait for a server to get to a critical state before addressing the problems.
Classic could have been saved so long ago, but feedback was never listened to for the most part. Instead of making up bastardized content, add content that was actually supposed ot be in the game, and no, I am not talking about just things like KvM.

I think most people here have only come to expect excuses. It's hard to have faith in the iRO staff when things are getting progressively worse. Maybe it's from your workload or position, Campitor, but you used to be the only one that made me feel like there was any hope out there, but now I feel like everything that is said falls on deaf ears.