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#1 DrArthur

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 06:51 PM

Mantis is vastly cheaper, but which one would boost LCB/PP more?


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 12:58 AM

mantis, if you hv the fund, go for darklord essence force3
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Posted 03 April 2017 - 04:49 PM

mantis, if you hv the fund, go for darklord essence force3

 

ouh,not zerom ? why ?


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 05:02 PM

ouh,not zerom ? why ?

 

2x Zerom Card is 6 Hit and 1.2 bonus damage.

2x Mantis Card is 6 bonus damage and adds to the weapon attack.

2x DLE Force3 is the same as Mantis, only more bonus damage and weapon attack.


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 05:08 PM

The weapon is still a melee weapon and scales of str
Chubby Earthworm takes in account only base dex, not total dex.


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 01:24 PM

Do not put a mantis card in a Chubby worm, please for the love of god and all that is holy. Leave it empty till you can get something like a gold scaraba card.


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 09:50 PM

Do not put a mantis card in a Chubby worm, please for the love of god and all that is holy. Leave it empty till you can get something like a gold scaraba card.



Or... .make... Multiple...charms???
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Posted 05 April 2017 - 05:26 AM

Do not put a mantis card in a Chubby worm, please for the love of god and all that is holy. Leave it empty till you can get something like a gold scaraba card.

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Posted 05 April 2017 - 10:50 AM

You can easily get Chubby Worms now that the drop is increased and the doram gear prices have gone down.


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 07:30 AM

I use marine sphere it helps alot,

 

btw which one is better DLEforce 3 or G.scarab?


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Posted 06 April 2017 - 11:54 AM

As long as you have a weapon equipped, Force3 will do more damage.
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Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:00 AM

Or... .make... Multiple...charms???

 

A mantis card is almost pointless, it'd be a waste of time. Just wait for force3 it's not that hard to get.

 

Hell force2 should be better, need confirmation on this.


Edited by ShoLin, 08 April 2017 - 09:04 AM.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:39 AM

it easily would
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Posted 08 April 2017 - 10:48 AM

A mantis card is almost pointless, it'd be a waste of time. Just wait for force3 it's not that hard to get.

 

Hell force2 should be better, need confirmation on this.

 

It seems to cost 450m... if Gold Scaraba cards at 250m were out of the question...


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 10:50 AM

I don't see how 4str and 12atk would beat 20atk (not 100% how status and equip atk scale.)

 

but -2% HP would suck.

 

Arthur force2 is like 2m and beats mantis and is only 1m more. Only do that if force3 is out of your range.


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Posted 08 April 2017 - 08:26 PM

Str scales better depending on weapon attack and considering dorams can get over 500 that makes force 3 way better
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Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:00 PM

both of my charms is filled by 2x force2. well, 30 doram tokens is just like 5-6m zeny today. okay to put mantis in, but again, there is force2 that has the same price as mantis but stronger.
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Posted 09 April 2017 - 09:15 AM

using doram 175 weapon at +10 means it has 540 str

1 str = 0,5% weapon base atk

1str = 2,7 atk

Force3 on Doram = 10,8 weapon atk +12 equip atk + 4 status atk(8 in damage calculation)


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