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[Kirx]

Lets just answer the question that should have been answered from page 1...................

of course Warlocks and Sorcs are powerful, they are the only classes that can oneshot (colour) plants and 2 shot shining plants......save for adoramous AB...............and we all know how powerful those (colour) plants are.............

One hit u mean?

Pretty obvious U prefer one hitting ur opponent using scaredy tactics.

[Bohem]

how you guys think so OCP 0 shoes?

 

when +9, MHP/MSP +20%, MATK+ 10%, increase dmg on fire/natural magic dmg by +10% i think?

 

pretty decent if you wanna one shot big bell ? 

[LordYggdrasill]

Actually its not that much better than a +12 Temporal Int Boots with Nightmare Verit Card for my calculation. It adds 10% MATK and has additional 10% damage increase for fire magic, but it doesnt have a slot so you cant card it to add more benefits. While Temporal Int Boots carded with NVT card, it has 10% MATK with additional 100 raw MATK. So the debate here is effectively 100 raw MATK vs 10% increase in Fire Magic. If your MATK isnt very high(especially for newbie players), its even possible that a +12(or even +9) Temporal Int Boot will outperform the new Shoes. If your MATK is enough high however, you'd be able to OHKO Big Bell already anyway so the new shoes aint making much difference. Of course, if you dont have a Temporal Int Boots, the shoes look much more attractive. But if you already have Temporal Int Boots, I fail to see it offers enough advantage to spend extra zeny to make a switch.

[Ashuckel]

20% hp/sp and same amount of damage.

[Bohem]

ahhh i was comparing with my temp dex boots..

 

its 0.5 sec fix casting delay reduction really necessary assuming that crimson rock is NOT a main concern ?

[Gabrielr04]

A case i see myself using this boots is, lvling wise not having enough stat points for dex 120 (Temp Dex) and getting a decent enough dmg boost since CR is the skill to go for lvling mostly + HP/SP to keep up.

[Bohem]

MATK 10% VS  MATK+100...

 

i dunno if i should use temp dex boots or int..

 

i heard somewhere that people use temp int for MVPs...

[Gabrielr04]

At instance clearing or lvling people use Temp Dex for the fast cast since -0.5 FCT helps quite a lot but as an example: If you're missing a little bit extra dmg to get that desired one shot then Temp Int could solve that problem.

Temp Int it's usually used for MVPs since you don't need FCT at all while using Soul Expansion so adding 100 matk it's not bad at all.

[Kusanagisama]

Normally you swap boots midcast... so the HP/SP boost is not that useful for warlocks.

Edited by Kusanagisama, 26 August 2017 - 02:56 PM.

[NekoCaptainNoob]

Temp Dex = Better solo leveling / instance   fct is the weakness of WL when solo or party without AB  

       if you're already 1 shot on mobs   you don't need Temp Int    faster cast is better on this situation

               

 

Temp Int =  Better when party with AB that Scrament help a lot  

                  with Scrament =  your cast time will be equal to solo with Temp Dex  

                  and you'll get better damage 

 

                 great to swap when release stored spells for extra dmg

 

                 also better MVPing with Soul Expansion + Intensification  because it's don't need fct reduction like CR or other skill

 

 

note : Swap boots is a great trick for WL  because sometimes you need to cast some skills  like Reading Spellbook / Recognized Spell   etc.

swap to Temp Dex before casting   you'll have faster cast speed  

 

(Especially when storing 4x CR / ES  faster cast = faster set up for spamming release spells) 

 

swap to Temp Int for extra dmg  during mid-cast / release

Edited by NekoCaptainNoob, 27 August 2017 - 09:48 AM.

[Bohem]

its been a while anything was added to this thread !

 

any speculation on OCP 10 items? 

[LordYggdrasill]

I dont think there will be any useful OCP 10 items for Mage Classes, but they may surprise us, who knows? I am more looking forward to Bio 5 update, ready to buy 2 x True Kathryne Keyron Cards. After inserting two True KK Cards in a Sunflower Boy, my Crimson Rock should be able to OHKO most mobs except for Bosses and MVPs. La'Cryma Set still wins against most MVPs though, since Waterball is just way too OP.

 

Not quite interested in the Bio 5 Hat however, since it does not offer MDEF piercing like OBMH(big difference between 50% with Magician's Gloves only and 88% with +14 OBMH + Magician's Gloves), so cant use it together with Sunflower Boy. Also enchanting the hat is extremely tedious, unless they at least move the NPC to a location where mobs cant reach us.

Edited by LordYggdrasill, 12 September 2017 - 04:57 AM.

[Kusanagisama]

+5% Soul Expansion damage per 2 upgrades? I'm on, even without enchants. Also, Crimson Rock Cooldown Redution so you don't need to release unamped CRs... It will be BIS for warlocks in most situations. And if you manage to get a Magical enchant up to level 5, it's somewhat akin to having a Fenrir Card, except that you will still be able to put a Lichtern Card (or any other card) on it.

[LordYggdrasill]

Without Sunflower Boy, what you said would be true since loss of the MDEF bypass from OBMH could be compensated by NCT card combos or Glorious Destruction Staff. With Sunflower Boy and 2 x True KK Card however, I do feel that OBMH is still the meta since there is a significant difference between 88% MDEF piercing(+14 OBMH) and only 50% MDEF piercing(the bio hat). Even if you upgrade it to +14, you get 35% more damage with Soul Expansion, and you will still be worse off against most high-level mobs with decent MDEF. Then again, we are back to the topic of the flawed MDEF scaling issue, which makes Sunflower Boy and any 2 hands staves other than GDS useless until this update.

[Bohem]

bio5 hat sounds certainly good.

 

btw, if i put ferinr card on head, and kiel card on middle, does it mean it wil get rid of 100% fix casting>

[Gabrielr04]

Kiel its after cast delay (sorry), plus FCT doesn't stacks if it's %, only the highest one gets to work.
For example if you have a Fenrir equipped (70% FCT) and then someone casts Sacrament on you (50% FCT) only the Fenrir effect will work, Sacra would do nothing

Edited by Gabrielr04, 15 September 2017 - 04:56 AM.

[LordYggdrasill]

bio5 hat sounds certainly good.

 

btw, if i put ferinr card on head, and kiel card on middle, does it mean it wil get rid of 100% fix casting>

 

Kiel Card affects after cast delay, which has nothing to do with FCT. Even if it does, FCT reduction cards will not stack if it is based on percentage, it only takes the highest reduction value. For instance, Fenrir Card(70% reduction) wont stack with Nidhoggur Shadow Card(50% reduction), the actual effect is Fenrir Card's 70% FCT reduction, making Nidhoggur Shadow Card completely useless for Fenrir Card users. However, if the FCT reduction is based on actual number of seconds, they will stack. For instance, Fenrir Card will stack with Temporal Dex Boots at 120 DEX.
 

[Bohem]

got it ... so i still want fenrir card then. can you give me one ?

[Kusanagisama]

Forget 100% FCT. For 100% FCT you'll need -0.5s from Dex boots, -0.5s from Bio 5 hat magical Enchant, -1.0s from costume garment enchant.

 

There. Got it.

[Ashuckel]

Zaha doll hat proc

[LordYggdrasill]

Forget 100% FCT. For 100% FCT you'll need -0.5s from Dex boots, -0.5s from Bio 5 hat magical Enchant, -1.0s from costume garment enchant.

 

There. Got it.

 

Alternatively, if iRO will ever get the update from kRO, and FCT for Crimson Rock becomes 1 sec instead of 2 secs.

Edited by LordYggdrasill, 14 September 2017 - 10:43 AM.

[Kusanagisama]

I hope we get that update.

[yauhoilun]

Kiel affects "after cast delay", not "variable cast time", not "fixed cast time".

 

Don't get the terms confused!

[Bohem]

well this OCP 10 was a bit of nothing for us.

 

this is not the last ocp is it?

[Gabrielr04]

Kiel affects "after cast delay", not "variable cast time", not "fixed cast time".

Don't get the terms confused!

Already fixed it, ty