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[PervySageMarty]

I am befuddled on how this works for it? My only opinions to this is that Frenzy does no real benefit at all to SC's and are more of a nerf to them during the Frenzy duration than anything........................Can someone with better insight on SC gameplay and mechanics tell me what I am not understanding?

 

Also, how does Maximum Power Thrust help an SC? Am i missing something here or are alot of Dagger weapons actually unbreakable and deal OMG damage that I do not know of?

Edited by PervySageMarty, 13 April 2017 - 06:13 PM.

[Usurper]

In PvM I can only see this boosting auto-spell SCs dupelight damage(Physical Part) and obviously the HP and atkspd bonus. For MvP however I don't think it would be advisable to use this and just stick to face tanking + Infinitie pots.

 

Other benefit outside of PvM/MvPs would be emp breaking, dunno just wanted to include this info.

[LunaMoonBunny]

You're not missing anything, Frenzy is not very good. I play physical RK quite a bit and I never click on that mf, it's usually just a "teehee look how much i can do" kinda situation against weaker MVPs you don't need to pot. Only class that benefits from Frenzy properly is GX, and even then you're not clicking that thing for 99.9% of the things you want dead, especially not on Instances.

 

Also Maximum is amazing. The breaking chance is pathetic, it basically doubles your auto damage which is very relevant on some stuff like Bako and for skills that are spammable but with lower damage output I found to be very good so far, like SR and Sky Blow.

 

What you can do new is up in the air right now. I'm gonna kill Baphomet and Root because that sure makes them a lot faster for recording purposes.

[PervySageMarty]

In PvM I can only see this boosting auto-spell SCs dupelight damage(Physical Part) and obviously the HP and atkspd bonus. For MvP however I don't think it would be advisable to use this and just stick to face tanking + Infinitie pots.

 

Other benefit outside of PvM/MvPs would be emp breaking, dunno just wanted to include this info.

 

Hmm....I thought Shadowspell drains SP every so often..........hmm......

You're not missing anything, Frenzy is not very good. I play physical RK quite a bit and I never click on that mf, it's usually just a "teehee look how much i can do" kinda situation against weaker MVPs you don't need to pot. Only class that benefits from Frenzy properly is GX, and even then you're not clicking that thing for 99.9% of the things you want dead, especially not on Instances.

 

Also Maximum is amazing. The breaking chance is pathetic, it basically doubles your auto damage which is very relevant on some stuff like Bako and for skills that are spammable but with lower damage output I found to be very good so far, like SR and Sky Blow.

 

What you can do new is up in the air right now. I'm gonna kill Baphomet and Root because that sure makes them a lot faster for recording purposes.

 

I guess you have a point, is it worth risking the 0.1% chance?

 

Anyways thankyou both Usurper and LunaMoonBunny for answering this esoteric question for me.

Edited by PervySageMarty, 13 April 2017 - 06:32 PM.

[RomeroMelo]

Maximum Power Thrust​ will grant you 100% dmg boost at a 0,1% chance of breaking the weapon... It's not very good PvM wise, the think about the new acc. will be the Mystical Amp. as it'll help a lot SS chasers

 

Edit: i'd not risk breaking the weapon as the DA will count as 2 auto attacks, each for 0,1% chance of breaking the weapon, one time it'll happen and -_- will hit the fan

Edited by RomeroMelo, 13 April 2017 - 06:34 PM.

[YangeWenli]

wait..you can copy dark claw and get maybe 100k+ Double attack or im dreaming now?   

[Usurper]

wait..you can copy dark claw and get maybe 100k+ Double attack or im dreaming now? 

 

Yes, but I think it'd be much better if paired with other skills i.e Bowling Bash and Feint Bomb and possibly Backstab.

Edited by Usurper, 13 April 2017 - 07:33 PM.

[Ashuckel]

DA does not count as 2 attacks, it is just 1, that for aesthetical purposes shows 2 hits.


Frenzy adds +200% on your final autoattack damage (220% on autocasted physical skills)
Maximum Power Trust adds +100%


Effectively having both at same time quadruples your basic attack damage, and adds +320% on the skills that are autocasted (Duple Light 200% for physical becomes 520%)


It >can< be usefull and fun to use, but with caution, as you can't gear switch or pot during frenzy.

Maximum Power Trust is free damage at a very low risk of breaking weapon, wich isnt a big factor in most cases. If anything you could always bring a gene/use an unbreakable weapon.

[YangeWenli]

So +12 Ice Pick for high def (300+?) and +15 crimson dagger for everything else right?

[CadburyChocolate]

valk dagger doesnt break right?

[YangeWenli]

meh you can just send the dagger to a alt and repair tho i guess valk dagger interesting for critical SC 

[Ashuckel]

valk dagger sucks as main hand for physical damage.

It is usefull for magic for it's 4 slots with racial magic damage cards