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[narublue]

I'm curious between these 2 weapons, +15 Crimson Spear (2xAK) and +14 Imperial Spear (1AK)/EA10) what would be the difference in damage with VP? Are we talking over 10k? Additionally, would the +15 Crim spear still beat the +14 Imperial at Overbrand? Can't find this specific answer anywhere, thanks : )

[awesomegeek]

Not exactly sure how much of a difference but from my own experince, Imperial Spear does more VP damage than any other spear.
​A high upgrade Holy Crimson Spear is a good alternative though.
It saves you from buying Aspersio scrolls and you can switch to a Thanatos Spear when your getting low in SP during that long VP spamming on an MVP.

​On Overbrand, a high upgrade Crimson LANCE does way more damage than a Crimson Spear or an Imperial Spear.
​However, when that new Nightmare Bio Hat for RG comes, Cannon Spear will be 2x more damage, in that case an Imperial Spear will be better overall since I assume most RGs use a Cannon Spear & Overbrand combo on killing mobs.

​Look at this RG here:

 

[jupiterz123]

Not exactly sure how much of a difference but from my own experince, Imperial Spear does more VP damage than any other spear.
​A high upgrade Holy Crimson Spear is a good alternative though.
It saves you from buying Aspersio scrolls and you can switch to a Thanatos Spear when your getting low in SP during that long VP spamming on an MVP.

​On Overbrand, a high upgrade Crimson LANCE does way more damage than a Crimson Spear or an Imperial Spear.
​However, when that new Nightmare Bio Hat for RG comes, Cannon Spear will be 2x more damage, in that case an Imperial Spear will be better overall since I assume most RGs use a Cannon Spear & Overbrand combo on killing mobs.

​Look at this RG here:

 

 

the RG in ur video seems have higher attack speed with 190aspd than in iro. My RG has 191 aspd without inspiration, but his VP is so slow......

[Shachi]

the RG in ur video seems have higher attack speed with 190aspd than in iro. My RG has 191 aspd without inspiration, but his VP is so slow......

 

the video has x2 play speed.

[awesomegeek]

the RG in ur video seems have higher attack speed with 190aspd than in iro. My RG has 191 aspd without inspiration, but his VP is so slow......

 

 

the video has x2 play speed.

 

I've made a thread about this before but in the end people just told me that I'm simply experiencing latency issues.

​Here's the summary:

​* iRO game client build is different from kRO ( i mean the scripts & everything are different aside from actual content or episode).

​​* In Windows 7, your skill spamming would be normal or equivalent to kRO.
​​* In Windows 7, if you use any latency fix software, your skill spamming would be slower.

* If you are running your iRO client in Windows 8 or 10 (which i think has a built-in latency fix), then your skill spamming would be slower.

​
This leads me to believe that latency fixing, although makes your movement, chat dialouge or game response faster, actually messes up your skill spamming. 

Look at Hayroh's Vanishing Point vid and compare it to mine. (This is not to brag that I do a much faster spam but to point out the difference)





 

[jupiterz123]

the video has x2 play speed.

 

yes i know its x2 play speed, i also compare it with my records with x2 speed. T T

[jupiterz123]

 

* If you are running your iRO client in Windows 8 or 10 (which i think has a built-in latency fix), then your skill spamming would be slower.

 

 

Lol my laptop is running in win 10. Is there any way to cancel the built-in latency fix? 

[Ashuckel]

the OS does not matter

[awesomegeek]

Lol my laptop is running in win 10. Is there any way to cancel the built-in latency fix? 

 

I don't know about that. And I'm not also sure if Windows 8/10 does have a built-in latency fix. But:

​When I use Leatrix on Windows 7:

​My RO client behaves EXACTLY as when I run it on Windows 10 or 8 (back then).
​- The /noctrl attack animation looks the legit 193 aspd.
- When I move from being completely stopped, it's really fast.
​- the chat dialogue from NPCs respond faster (basically spamming "Enter" gets rid of the long dialogue faster.
​- TARGETTED SKILL SPAMMING HAS PAUSES exactly how it looks like from Hayroh's video

​This tells me that Windows 8/10 has a built-in Latency Fix.


​When I disable Leatrix on Windows7:
- everything above does not happen
​- chat dialogue has a little bit of LAG
​- theres a lil bit of LAG when moving from being completly stopped for a long time. (not a deal breaker & only happens when being stopped for a long time).
​- I CAN SPAM TARGETTED SKILLS AT THE LEGIT SPEED!

​You may be wondering why I said "targetted". Skills like Rolling Cutter, behaves the same whether I use Windows 7, Win7+ Leatrix or Windows 8/10.

​(theres some people here that's really getting on my nerves but they're not worth replying so I'll just ignore)
 

[jupiterz123]

I don't know about that. And I'm not also sure if Windows 8/10 does have a built-in latency fix. But:

​When I use Leatrix on Windows 7:

​My RO client behaves EXACTLY as when I run it on Windows 10 or 8 (back then).
​- The /noctrl attack animation looks the legit 193 aspd.
- When I move from being completely stopped, it's really fast.
​- the chat dialogue from NPCs respond faster (basically spamming "Enter" gets rid of the long dialogue faster.
​- TARGETTED SKILL SPAMMING HAS PAUSES exactly how it looks like from Hayroh's video

​This tells me that Windows 8/10 has a built-in Latency Fix.


​When I disable Leatrix on Windows7:
- everything above does not happen
​- chat dialogue has a little bit of LAG
​- theres a lil bit of LAG when moving from being completly stopped for a long time. (not a deal breaker & only happens when being stopped for a long time).
​- I CAN SPAM TARGETTED SKILLS AT THE LEGIT SPEED!

​You may be wondering why I said "targetted". Skills like Rolling Cutter, behaves the same whether I use Windows 7, Win7+ Leatrix or Windows 8/10.

​(theres some people here that's really getting on my nerves but they're not worth replying so I'll just ignore)
 

 

Thx for your experiences  These really make sense.