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[ninou]

Hi,

 

My sura is 172 right now.

 

My tiger canon damage from Flash combo is 125k on big bells, using a +14 double malicious crimson mace.

 

Simple question, since i'm not good at doing maths in RO :

 

According to the damage with double malicious crimson, would a +14 2x race or 1x race 1x size crimson mace, one shoot big bells, that is to say 167k damage ?

 

I need +42k damage to one shoot them but dunno if the extra 2x size/race card would do the job.

 

Any help would be appreciated. Maybe something else to change in my equipements ?

 

Thanks !

 

Equips :

 

+12 turkey

Brynhlid

Pirate dagger

Dark blinder

Fireproof stone buckler

+9 immune giant faceworm snake skin special vit, vit+4, luk+3

+9 superior temp vit boots

+14 double malicious crimson mace neutral

2x bako tatoo

 

Shadow :

 

malicious set

physical set

+1 aspd rudra

 

Bufs :

 

vip buf

minor brisket

Tako

savage bbq

HP increase potion large

 

That's it

 

 

[Doomsquare]

SP increase potions help a little with the damage.

 

Also I won't suggest going 2 racial/size cards for NCT grinding, instead go the -def racial route. The combo of Big Bell + Neo Punk is what comes to mind

[ninou]

Thanks,

 

The -def racial route could do the job. Not sure what the 50% def ignore would mean in term of damage.

 

Just want to be sure to reach the 167k damage because the set would cost around 800mil.

 

Maybe I could make a +14 crimson mace 1x big bell and 1x HF or 1x race if not enougjh damage.

 

 

 

 

[ninou]

Just tried with sp increase potion and it's 133k damage....33k close to the one shoot Flash combo.

 

 

[ShoLin]

idk i use megs to one shot them.

[KingZero2016]

Following this thread.

[nheil02]

i can one shot big bell if Bear Power proc. using average gear only...

[ninou]

i can one shot big bell if Bear Power proc. using average gear only...

It rarelly procs.

I want perm one shoot and 'im close to it without any meg.

Guess the right weapon ( not malicious) can do it, just need to be sure before buying.

[Silvianna]

megs and tao if you want to one shot at low lv around 150ish

since you are 172, basically you should be able to do that 

with Robot Arm lol

since its better than crimson mace at anything 

 

[ninou]

I can be wrong but I dont think that +14 crimson mace ( 450 mil zeny) is not better than +12 robot arm ( 1.4 bil)....................

 

[Ashuckel]

+15 crimson mace = +12 robot arm at 160 str. Lower str Crimson wins, higher Robot Arm wins. Crimson at lower refine requires way less str to become even.

[Doomsquare]

I'll also suggest a getting wakwak carded GFSS (preferbly with more vit) and swapping your shield to a mad bunny

[Ashuckel]

no one asked neither you stated this yet. What is your base vit and str?

[ChaoticRK]

I want to know too.

[ninou]

My stats :

 

 

STR : 120

AGI : 1

VIT : 120

INT : 30

DEX : 96

LUK : 70

 

The one thing I want to know : Will my 133k damage reach at least 167k with the right mace ( -def against formless or race/size) ? (I'm using +14 2x malicious crimson mace)

 

Then i'll adjust with mad buny, or wak wak on my GFSS instead of raydric.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ninou]

The video I just made here :

 

https://www.youtube....eature=youtu.be

[Ashuckel]

130 vit would've made wonders

[ninou]

Anything better than 2x bako ? (except megs)

[SuAvE]

beholder flameguard shadow set

Gentle Touch Revitalize( just use the mesmerist once u hit 175 for reset skill )

RWC Ring FS or HP%( saw someone own this in thor vit3HP3%HP3% idk if iRO have this) Perfect enchant GScaraba or DLE force 3?

Miners Mid/MOH ( use green potion or royal jelly to remove blind )

Toy syringe ( for pots if u choose to wear the beholder set )

 

thats all i can think to boost ur damage hope it helps.

Edited by SuAvE, 23 April 2017 - 05:04 AM.

[Richkr]

My stats :

 

 

STR : 120

AGI : 1

VIT : 120

INT : 30

DEX : 96

LUK : 70

 

The one thing I want to know : Will my 133k damage reach at least 167k with the right mace ( -def against formless or race/size) ? (I'm using +14 2x malicious crimson mace)

 

Then i'll adjust with mad buny, or wak wak on my GFSS instead of raydric.

 

Given your numbers, I'm very convinced you could 1 shot if you add to the formula a peco peco egg + big ben mace, neo punk mad bunny, wakwak gfss and 2 rwc 6%atk str/vit 3. Your only problem would just be outpotting the incoming dmg

[vangaration]

Given your numbers, I'm very convinced you could 1 shot if you add to the formula a peco peco egg + big ben mace, neo punk mad bunny, wakwak gfss and 2 rwc 6%atk str/vit 3. Your only problem would just be outpotting the incoming dmg

 

RWC x 2 (with said enchants) >> Bako x 2?  If so, would VIT > STR?  Asking because I am a nob when it comes to Suras. Always thought VIT/INT > STR for flash combo/tiger cannon builds.  Or is it VIT = STR?  And would the slot with a Golden Scaraba Card/Darklord Essence Force/Vitality 3 not be better than 3 STR/VIT?  Or am I doing the RWC enchants wrong... Again sorry for the 21 questions!  Also trying to achieve what OP is.

Edited by vangaration, 24 April 2017 - 10:56 PM.

[Richkr]

RWC x 2 (with said enchants) >> Bako x 2?  If so, would VIT > STR?  Asking because I am a nob when it comes to Suras. Always thought VIT/INT > STR for flash combo/tiger cannon builds.  Or is it VIT = STR?  And would the slot with a Golden Scaraba Card/Darklord Essence Force/Vitality 3 not be better than 3 STR/VIT?  Or am I doing the RWC enchants wrong... Again sorry for the 21 questions!  Also trying to achieve what OP is.

 

1) Yes 2) It depends on your overall setup. If you already have more hp modifiers stacked than atk, which is more common among a great percentage of suras, str should be better. The thing is you need to balance both. Going either full HP or full ATK is usually a bad idea. Finally Gold Scaraba is better than 3 stats points enchants and wins against DL essence under normal circumstances.

[Ashuckel]

RWC get the stats+slot '-'

and RWC>bako by default since both can give the same 7% atk, but rwc has slot+stat

[Richkr]

Maybe he was referring to gold scaraba card slot vs 4th enchant

[vangaration]

Maybe he was referring to gold scaraba card slot vs 4th enchant

 

Yeah, sorry.  I was referring to the 4th slot/enchant of the RWC.