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#1 asperatus

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Posted 15 May 2017 - 12:49 PM

What would be the optimal way to gain instacast through stats for sorcerer currently? 

Int   120 +20 gene food + 10 general food + 14 job

Dex 120 +20 gene food + 10 general food + 10 job

That gives 484/530

I have slave AB who could cast Blessing + 10 int/dex = 514/530

I plan to use +9 temporal dex boots eventually, that makes it 523/530

 

 Is that correct so far?

New 16.1 robe could give from 10 to 14 INT (or dex, but the matk buff is too strong to ignore).

Vicious weapon could also give up to +10 stat, but MATK enchants seem to be more favorable.

 

 

+4 int + 4 dex would come from mysterious bug shadow set, but I'm not sure if it is still possible to obtain it.

 

Are there any other staple items useful in obtaining instacast? Giant faceworm +int + dex special dex is rather cheap and would go well with temporal boots.

I'm currently using following gear (dont laugh pls :wah: ):

FAW 30% variable

TSoD 3/3 16% variable

double sprint ring 20%

variant

elemental chest pieces depending on scenario

+9 MNC ( this build was originally hindsight/spellfist)

 

Which allows me to do some easy content. I'd like to make a transition to stat instacast and sell FAW to fund other gear. The cost of +20 food tho....

 

Advices? The thread is a bit chaotic, sorry for that


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Posted 15 May 2017 - 01:11 PM

int is more valuable than matk on sorc garment (int gfss vs spell faw) so you caan grab int there, any value around 13 or more i
already does better dmg than spell faw.

you can grab int/dex on accessories, like enchanted evil spirit gloves, sapphire wrist, rwc pendants, etc

stuff lile BFM, Jin Marim Balloon, costumes with dex/int, etc
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:18 AM

int is more valuable than matk on sorc garment (int gfss vs spell faw) so you caan grab int there, any value around 13 or more i
already does better dmg than spell faw.

you can grab int/dex on accessories, like enchanted evil spirit gloves, sapphire wrist, rwc pendants, etc

stuff lile BFM, Jin Marim Balloon, costumes with dex/int, etc

 

So I should look for double int Faceworm with special int? Got it. I took a look at the sapphire wrist, it looks like it is better than RWC -  the stat gain is higher and does not depend on luck to gain good result

 

Trading my SP17 faw should cover the cost of sapphire wrists, I have some pocket money to grab Faceworm and temporal dex boots

Without food this would place me around 80% reduction, 100% with food

 

And I'd have helmet and chest free to gearswap depending on the situation :p_idea:

 

Seems legit, thanks Ash


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 06:53 AM

To achieve insta casting through stats, food is a must rite?

 

I was trying to see if i can make my WL insta cast with stats, but seems to be keep hitting the wall..

 

is there any way WL can achieve insta casting through stats WITHOUT food buff ? (but with VIP, blessing and stats from items ?)


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 06:55 AM

No.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:00 AM

ouch, alrite. but can good from kafra shop stack? or they only sell +20 stat food ? not +10 stat food 


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:04 AM

+20 foods stacks with others. +1 to +10 food don't stack, the highest one prevails.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:05 AM

btw, i think u can use giant faceworm with INT+5 Int+5 Special int which would give total of 14 int, then card it with something with int ? may be?


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:25 AM

still will be far from enough. Unless you use gears that give a lot of DEX, you wont reach insta without foods, but then you'll be losing a bunch of damage.
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:55 AM

true.so the stat foods are the only way.. damn


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 08:02 AM

thing is, you dont need insta. A fast cast is enough, insta is just added luxury, specially for WLs as you'll still have some fixed cast.
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 09:49 AM

if that's the case, i really wish they bring 0.5sec fix casting reduction costume =D


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 10:25 AM

thing is, you dont need insta. A fast cast is enough, insta is just added luxury, specially for WLs as you'll still have some fixed cast.

 

Yeah, I think so as well. Assuming no foods one loses 30 INT and DEX so from 530 instacast one drops to 440. It still means around 83% variable reduction. By the way +10 foods are not that expensive. +20 ones only for bosses.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 11:11 AM

so even if i can get 100% casting reduction through stats, there still will be casting bar showing up due to fixed casting rite ? 


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 11:36 AM

Unless you summon ventus, yeah. You can use two fernir mvp cards though  :heh:


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 12:16 PM

cant anymore :v
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 12:41 PM

cant anymore :v

 

 

wot do u mean?


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 12:53 PM

The bug that allowed 2 Fenrir Cards to stack was ninja-fixed.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:19 PM

WTB> Pre-renewal cast time mechanics :U

 

Had instacast on my Hwiz for like 6 months before renewal dropped and screwed everything up lol (I still needed the +10 kafra foods for this though)


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:43 PM

The bug that allowed 2 Fenrir Cards to stack was ninja-fixed.

 

 

they dun stack? really ? so how can they make 100% fix casting reduction?


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 01:53 PM

same percentage FCT reduction should never stack unless it's bug as mentioned by Mr. Ash and Kusa on double fenrir card case,

 

highest percentage percentage that will be taking effect, lower one will be ignored.

 

But percentage FCT do stack with flat FCT reduction like the one from temporal dex boots or future garment costume FCT enchant stone


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:01 PM

flat fixed cast reduction stack additively, like bellum arc wand+temp dex = -0.7s
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 09:58 PM

same percentage FCT reduction should never stack unless it's bug as mentioned by Mr. Ash and Kusa on double fenrir card case,

 

highest percentage percentage that will be taking effect, lower one will be ignored.

 

But percentage FCT do stack with flat FCT reduction like the one from temporal dex boots or future garment costume FCT enchant stone

 

Isn't the formula

FCT (seconds) = (BaseFCT - Sum_FCT) × (1 − Max_FCTReduc ÷ 100)

Implying that the flat reduction comes first though? Just like the mental stick works. This would mean that without 100% fixed cast reduction there would still be a fraction of second of fixed cast.

 

Also, do you have a source on that future enchant stones by any chance? I haven't heard about them


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 02:38 AM

Interestingly, Warlocks are the only class that can get full FCT reduction naturally (kage/obo is active skill whilst Warlock is passive and always on), if Radius calculation is correct, a lvl 175 Warlock needs 1000 INT for complete FCT reduction, and since over 510 INT equals instant VCT as well. The real question is, how long till its possible to get 1000 INT????
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 10:41 AM

Interestingly, Warlocks are the only class that can get full FCT reduction naturally (kage/obo is active skill whilst Warlock is passive and always on), if Radius calculation is correct, a lvl 175 Warlock needs 1000 INT for complete FCT reduction, and since over 510 INT equals instant VCT as well. The real question is, how long till its possible to get 1000 INT????

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