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#1 malaypower

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 02:57 AM

im not sure if it useful or not but i got vicious mind katar with enchant

 

damage to ghost +8%

damage to demi human +18%

luk+4

 

how to value it?


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 03:47 AM

this one is pretty bad :v

pretty much you look for stats that pair well with what the classes that uses the weapon looks for, at high number values if possible
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 05:12 AM

I think getting the high ATK or MATK rolls would be a good seller, or the generic damage increases for crit in some cases.

 

for the first two affixes ideally something that matches a specific monster? its element + race + special for those weapons right?


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 06:50 AM

i got a mace with +10 str but water and plat +% damage. lol talk about useless


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 06:51 AM

all you need is cast delay 20% and boss damage +30%
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Posted 16 May 2017 - 06:58 AM

I got a 2H Staff with +41 MATK and 22% bypass MDEF of Insect Monsters. Queen Scaraba wants to be hunted badly.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 07:02 AM

where can i see all the enchants possible for those weaons?


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 09:28 AM

where can i see all the enchants possible for those weaons?

 

Well Astra says she will post soon...since somedays ago, so i dont know what mean "soon", maybe when everyone realize and make a list of those LOL!

 

Anyway for me only the Delay and Boss damage or high stats work, but as far i check all of delay enchants coming from the dagger (at least in my case, idk the others)


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 03:42 AM

where can i see all the enchants possible for those weaons?

 

Go to ragial and type in "vicious"

 

optionally choose a weapon, they don't all get the same enchants.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 03:53 AM

actually they do, just some seem to have more likely enchant types to get than others. (got crit dmg on staff, mdef pen on sword/dagger)
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:59 AM

Trash vicious=5emb pls
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:34 AM

yeah, so that magic stones drop to like 1m each :v
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:19 AM

got +4 aspd katar, how much?


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:20 AM

are you going to ask the value of every single enchant you found? the content is not 1 week yet, expect price of all things to be overrated.


Edited by fuyukikun, 17 May 2017 - 06:21 AM.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:36 AM

Is the drake enchant real?

Cause hell Id love that sinc drake is like many zeroes in thor and is hard with this economic stagnation
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:39 AM

yeah it is


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:42 AM

Holyyy shshdhdhejdiejdjciei now I have a real mission lmao I have halfassed feeling hunting Lindy and Juliette since its not like I desperately need it but now ... huehue
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:44 AM

have seen also mdef pen values of over 30%
delay reduction of 22%
complete def ignore on X race

things can get crazy


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:49 AM

they're super rng but i think they have great potential. i'm looking out for bow particularly.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 06:49 AM

Acquired that mdef penetration 29% and additional matk%... on different races and elements tho

Reel rng
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 01:06 PM

these weapons give more incentive to farm new instance than the mvp drops


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 01:32 PM

depending on the class and build you have you may even aproach the instance in a different way.
Classes with good 1v1 but bad at AoE can speed straight to MvP and just keep redoing this to make most use of their time limit.
Some classes have good AoE but poor 1v1 (low delay reduction DB rk for example) and you can simply walk the tower killing everything in the way and grabbing Vicious Weapons and just leave>recreate instance, not wasting time on the MvP wich would be pretty slow.
Obviously some classes can do both pretty effectively (GXes, Kiel'ed RK, Genes, etc) and might take one of the two, or do both, wichever they prefer.

Imo this is a nice approach for instances, i hope they can adapt this kind of design in future content, but knowing them my hope on this is veeeery low :v
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 02:02 PM

depending on the class and build you have you may even aproach the instance in a different way.
Classes with good 1v1 but bad at AoE can speed straight to MvP and just keep redoing this to make most use of their time limit.
Some classes have good AoE but poor 1v1 (low delay reduction DB rk for example) and you can simply walk the tower killing everything in the way and grabbing Vicious Weapons and just leave>recreate instance, not wasting time on the MvP wich would be pretty slow.
Obviously some classes can do both pretty effectively (GXes, Kiel'ed RK, Genes, etc) and might take one of the two, or do both, wichever they prefer.

Imo this is a nice approach for instances, i hope they can adapt this kind of design in future content, but knowing them my hope on this is veeeery low :v

 

I think everything in 16.1 is incredible. Not only this, but also:

 

- Quests/Instance cooldown restart at a fixed time (08:00 a.m. in my timezone);

- Great rewards standalone;

- The rewards cannot be broken by enchanting or enchant resetting, but are still hellish to make a perfect enchant;

- Daily quests can be done pretty much by every class with very little efficiency differences (maybe the difference can be significative for Support Classes, but even my Suppor/ME AB can do Bijou Instance and farm on Destroyed Prontera easily).

 

I hope they follow this model for future designs of... everything.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 02:42 PM

Same -- I'm happy with the new content, the way the daily instance cool down resets, the xp you get from it, as well as the range of levels that can participate. It's also a good alternative leveling zone. I hope prontera spotlight affects invaded-prontera as that would be a good leveling area for 140+ chars. 


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:24 PM

A good bow would be boss damage 25%+ and drake effect. A thana card in a +15 VMBow would be a timeless auto warg weapon with those enchants.
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