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#151 5787160518141414200

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 03:09 AM

Normal Drakos teleprt scrolls are not working. Fix please.


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Posted 05 June 2017 - 03:25 AM

please give elluman crown and the misc item different names. there are many people who try to scam others and already did by putting the misc item in for like 4kg.


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Posted 05 June 2017 - 12:17 PM

I suggest making monster cards cost 2 and 4, instead of 4 and 8 coins. Alternatively make coins tradable and/or make 1 coin trade for 2 coins of the lower tier.

Right now you need to farm for 4 days to get a single card (in your level). You need 32 cards to get to level 10. That's a lot of days if you want to farm them yourself.


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Posted 05 June 2017 - 12:56 PM

I suggest making monster cards cost 2 and 4, instead of 4 and 8 coins. Alternatively make coins tradable and/or make 1 coin trade for 2 coins of the lower tier.

Right now you need to farm for 4 days to get a single card (in your level). You need 32 cards to get to level 10. That's a lot of days if you want to farm them yourself.

 

is way more them 32 cards the fusion rate is 25% thats why i wont bother farming them


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#155 Vossel

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 02:16 PM

is way more them 32 cards the fusion rate is 25% thats why i wont bother farming them

you can use insurances so you need only the exact amount of cards.

 

I suggest making monster cards cost 2 and 4, instead of 4 and 8 coins. Alternatively make coins tradable and/or make 1 coin trade for 2 coins of the lower tier.

Right now you need to farm for 4 days to get a single card (in your level). You need 32 cards to get to level 10. That's a lot of days if you want to farm them yourself.

those are the cursed cards, you can use as many characters as you can handle each day to farm those coins. Depending on how many you can do on a day you can gain up to 4-8 cards in 4 days.

Since those cursed cards (cursed only not any upgraded ones) are tradeable it is kinda fair in my opinion. Also you have to think of this, those skills never had skill cards and some like wood rush are really strong at 10/10 so i can understand the effort for them.


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Posted 05 June 2017 - 02:43 PM

I suggest making monster cards cost 2 and 4, instead of 4 and 8 coins. Alternatively make coins tradable and/or make 1 coin trade for 2 coins of the lower tier.
Right now you need to farm for 4 days to get a single card (in your level). You need 32 cards to get to level 10. That's a lot of days if you want to farm them yourself.


Actually why not just make the wanted board a 2ndary way of farming cards. Really weird to see an empty wanted board. Unless there are future plans for wanted boarde (events etc).

Edited by AngMZ, 05 June 2017 - 02:45 PM.

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 02:54 PM

and i will add to that exchange card for coin base on ''card tier'' after getting it in the wanted board 1 or 2 coin per card of course not the full amount xD since the wanted board had like 8 random monster so 8 random card


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Posted 06 June 2017 - 04:28 AM

Can i ask the Lvl needed to complete all question of list Arcadia ? I mean all Ep1 and Ep2. Thank


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Posted 06 June 2017 - 05:18 AM

Part 1 quests start at level 65 and go up to level 67. Part 2 quests start at level 68 and go up to level 78.


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 05:24 AM

I did 3 expert drakos runs with 31k matk, 18k matk and 3k matk (lvl 1 broken staff). Times for those were 1:10, 1:10 and 1:30. I do get why it works like this but I'd also like to get something out of my gear. 


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 06:40 AM

It's not only based on ATK amounts.  :p_laugh:  You do get something out of your gear.


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:01 AM

It's not only based on ATK amounts.  :p_laugh:  You do get something out of your gear.

Yes but that's why I tested it by drastically changing just my matk. I don't think it's right that I can get the same time with half the matk and just slightly worse with a freaking lvl 1 weapon.


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 08:48 AM

The expert mode is designed the way everyone is able to run this mode with every class and every gear facing the same difficulty (besides that there is a small malus/bonus based on the gear). Everyone is able to show: I am an expert with my character and not: I am an invoker or summoner and I have the license to run this and make money from it while all the others are worth nothing. It is not a p2w-mode  Also the def of your gear is an important factor. You can't run that thing without def. That is your main advantage with good gear not die from 2 hits of the monsters. It's your own decision if you think it's worth running for you or not.

 

However you can try to figure out how it works but you won't - the calculation is very complex.

 

That's all I have to say about it.

 


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:04 AM

 

However you can try to figure out how it works but you won't - the calculation is very complex.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:44 AM

Dont know if its a bug but in Expert Mode level 40+ Normal Mobs give 5k EXP and Bosses give 6k EXP. And in 80+ Mode you get 600k from Normal Bosses and 1,5k from Bosses , 800kk from Endboss.


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:34 AM

I did 3 expert drakos runs with 31k matk, 18k matk and 3k matk (lvl 1 broken staff). Times for those were 1:10, 1:10 and 1:30. I do get why it works like this but I'd also like to get something out of my gear. 

 

welcome to the overlord world where the 31 k magic atck monk outdamage you with 120k physic


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:15 AM

I don't have to know all the calculations under the hood to understand how it works in practice. Not saying I get everything about it, just pointing out the principle.

If that's the design choice then so be it. Just means that my gear, unlike you said, basically doesn't help. Sure you need a bit of def to run these, but getting a pair of these new paris wings for def for example doesn't really compare.

I hate to point this out because it does sound really elitist. It is just disappointing to me that now most dungeons have a mode (granted I've not run all of them yet) that is the most effective to farm and in which gear caunts this little. If elga gets a similar thing then why did I spend last year to basically max my pve gear. You could say I can do other stuff better but for example in mission maps and such there's a point after witch gear doesn't really help either because the monsters die so quick already. +20 back and wep would mostly do.

I honestly think it's important even for those with less gear that good gear makes one better. That gives people something to play for, and that's what mmos have always been about to me anyways. And it is what gives you money.

I haven't really seen anyone complaining about p2w in pve, just the valid concern that summoners and invokers are (were?) so strong. I really think this is a bad long term decision. Besides it doesn't have to be an either/or issue, there's all kinds of ways in the middle. I think it would be fair if a player with a lvl 1 wep wouldn't be able to run these dungeons. Or that a person with maxed gear would run it say 2-1.5 times faster than a person with just a lower level +20 weapon.

I don't know, maybe it's just me that's annoyed. At least there's still pvp that I can improve my gear for in the future, even though I don't find that nearly as exciting. I'm not a particilarly jelous person, but when people with way worse gear than mine run these things way faster than me that some how doesn't feel like this is any better for pve balance than summys and invos doing elga so fast.

Edited by Precrush, 11 June 2017 - 11:20 AM.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:19 PM

well i dont know what i shall think about it either. its good at the one hand and bad at the other hand. the advantage of good weapons should be probably a bit better.

 

also its not like "you can call yourself an expert if you cleared the dungeon". everyone with two hands and some gold in the pocket can do it if he has the time for it. i didnt call myself a hero for clearing hero mode paris either.

 


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 06:05 AM

well, its simple to farm paris Expert even as 85 full geared if you just know how the scaling works, even in parties it gets easy that way.


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 06:37 AM

tell us then :(


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#171 Vossel

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 07:31 AM

lol, pay me.

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 12:55 PM

rip me then 


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 04:59 PM

Not intend to necro nor troll but currently the name of Wanted appears not to be accurate with the current system. What would you rename?

Edit: I also read the description says "You can get 10 Monster card daily quest from Andre". That is untrue.


Edited by FeintsSiphon, 14 June 2017 - 05:24 PM.

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