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#1 BlackMeow

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 06:46 AM

HEADS UP!

 

for those people who purchased OCP7 this week and didnt get any mob scarf after purchasing 50+ boxes, now we have a 2nd chance of getting one by trading 2 equipments from OCP7 or Bulk of consumables from OCP7 to grandma boxter this coming patch notes! 

 

so don't sell your trashy equipments from OCP7 for a low price. ;) good luck to us all and may RNG smile upon us! 


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#2 Darkshneider

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 06:51 AM

whoa whoa what just woke up and read this.details please :D like you choose what tog et or get another random roll chance to get scarf?


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:05 AM

You get a fresh new exciting unopened ocp 7 box!

 

In before you trade in 2 Kirins and open a Kirin. Happens if you trade in one by one with the costume box.  :heh:

 

But yeah, all the 'trash' went up to 30m atm...


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:07 AM

Hopefully this lowers the price of mobscarf to more...non mvp card levels something more reachable would be nice


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:26 AM

OCP 7 is either mob scarf or go home:

 

1000 WPE is 200m. By 1000 WPE we get 1200 KP, able to buy 4 box. Means the price of the box in zeny is 50m.

 

To Breakdown:

profit (items with value more than 50m): mob scarf

breakeven (items with value equal to 50m): BMx3 stacks, BB stacks

loss (items with value less thena 50m): the rest

 

Congratz camp gives you second chance. But RNG is still RNG, good luck


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:28 AM

Yea, i sold all my gear stuff only left consumables. Can the oda's be traded to boxter? Anyone knows? This is really a big redemption, born again time. If dont receive after maintenance.... will really consider quit. Looking at dota2 treasure chest drop where u can get all item at least 1 is far better than this. Hurts too much.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:40 AM

OCP 7 is either mob scarf or go home:

 

1000 WPE is 200m. By 1000 WPE we get 1200 KP, able to buy 4 box. Means the price of the box in zeny is 50m.

 

To Breakdown:

profit (items with value more than 50m): mob scarf

breakeven (items with value equal to 50m): BMx3 stacks, BB stacks

loss (items with value less thena 50m): the rest

 

Congratz camp gives you second chance. But RNG is still RNG, good luck

 

So Mr. Fuyuki have you finally succeed nailing any mob scarf seller at 2.2 B price? :p_hi:

 

I didn't see your mech opening pub in eden today


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:45 AM

Got one at 2,1 :)
I know the odds and the profitability of the box is not appealing, so i came to conclusion it is wiser to buy the item directly rather than opening the boxes.
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:57 AM

nice :heh:


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:59 AM

This mean more BMX3 in the market, so more cheap <3


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:34 AM

Already sold out all the crap so this makes little sense to lots ppl.

 

Just put the damn scarf in cash shop for 5000 KP or something then all problem settled.

 

Ppl can either gamble with 300 KP for 1 mob or just buy 1 with a much higher price  :yawn:


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:38 AM

Already sold out all the crap so this makes little sense to lots ppl.

 

Just put the damn scarf in cash shop for 5000 KP  or something then all problem settled.

 

Ppl can either gamble with 300 KP for 1 mob or just just buy 1 with a much higher price  :yawn:

I support this.I sold all my opened box contents alredy so this dosent help me much XD just put it in the kafra shop that would be better


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:46 AM

For these rates, it should be 10K KP. :P The reason that I barely put money in this game is because I hate ganbling. The only type of ganbling that I came to accept is item refines, so, I only buy more than the usual 1500 + VIP when there's a refine event active. Whey they put Zaha Doll on Cash Shop, or RWC boxes I bought more, though... I have no problem in paying for an item, but if they want to run a strange kind of casino, if it depended on those who think like me, they'd be out of business in no time. :P If you don't like the way things are, you'd better start convincing more and more people to act accordingly. Because many people are using their wallets to tell WP that a casino is great.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:50 AM

Already sold out all the crap so this makes little sense to lots ppl.

 

Just put the damn scarf in cash shop for 5000 KP or something then all problem settled.

 

Ppl can either gamble with 300 KP for 1 mob or just buy 1 with a much higher price  :yawn:

 

I support this too. Already sold most of the gears which left me with only  consumables. But since ocp box is still running i dont think they can put that item in cash shop....:(


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 09:07 AM

For these rates, it should be 10K KP. :P The reason that I barely put money in this game is because I hate ganbling. The only type of ganbling that I came to accept is item refines, so, I only buy more than the usual 1500 + VIP when there's a refine event active. Whey they put Zaha Doll on Cash Shop, or RWC boxes I bought more, though... I have no problem in paying for an item, but if they want to run a strange kind of casino, if it depended on those who think like me, they'd be out of business in no time. :P If you don't like the way things are, you'd better start convincing more and more people to act accordingly. Because many people are using their wallets to tell WP that a casino is great.

 

well, as I said, 5K or something, they can mark up whatever they want to see if ppl are willing to buy.

 

and if this is a compensation for ppl already spent 10K WPE then 5K KP is a fair price.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 09:14 AM

6K kp is pretty reasonable I'd say. $50 to get the item you want out of a box w/o any hassle vs gambling for less.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:00 AM

For these rates, it should be 10K KP. :P The reason that I barely put money in this game is because I hate ganbling. The only type of ganbling that I came to accept is item refines, so, I only buy more than the usual 1500 + VIP when there's a refine event active. Whey they put Zaha Doll on Cash Shop, or RWC boxes I bought more, though... I have no problem in paying for an item, but if they want to run a strange kind of casino, if it depended on those who think like me, they'd be out of business in no time. :P If you don't like the way things are, you'd better start convincing more and more people to act accordingly. Because many people are using their wallets to tell WP that a casino is great.

People get addicted to rng casino boxes quick.Thats why this practice is so big in other free to play mmos and its everywhere on phone games now.Its not going anywhere sadly unless people get disciplined enough to say NO MORE.Dont think its going to happen since these newer generations growing on these phone games see these lavish spending on rng stuff as norm.The company is just being smart and exploiting it.Thats why I don't expect things like mob scarf to pop on sale on the shop any time soon.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:32 AM

6K kp is pretty reasonable I'd say. $50 to get the item you want out of a box w/o any hassle vs gambling for less.

 

except they know we'd all likely take this route over the gambling route, and then the lure of 'chance' would no longer be present. the game at that point would be 100% fully pay-to-win.

a turn off..


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:35 AM

If WP listen more to this guys :V, we are already on the other side tho, i wonder how much of the gear you wear now is not from cash shop lol (I think only armor and weapon are not good  on cash shop). I already put a lot times the powercreep video so whatever, microtransactions on this game are broken aswell xD

 


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:49 AM

If WP listen more to this guys :V, we are already on the other side tho, i wonder how much of the gear you wear now is not from cash shop lol (I think only armor and weapon are not good  on cash shop). I already put a lot times the powercreep video so whatever, microtransactions on this game are broken aswell xD

 

 

there are some really good ones from Cash Shop

 

I don't know when did you start this game, but Physical Shadow Set in the beginning was a box costed 1800 KP

 

And Vana/Rideword Hat are basic gears for a lot of ppl.

Plus Peco hairband, Robo eyes and this and that.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:56 AM

except they know we'd all likely take this route over the gambling route, and then the lure of 'chance' would no longer be present. the game at that point would be 100% fully pay-to-win.

a turn off..

But it IS alredy pay to win.you just need to pay MORE if you got bad rng luck


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:11 AM

No one would buy cash shop items if in game items which anybody with excessive leisure can farm are more powerful. Game would of become bot to win instead and the company will not generate any revenues. Using cash shop items also shows love, loyalty, and support to the game.

 


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:55 AM

But it IS already pay to win. you just need to pay MORE if you got bad rng luck

half correct friend. oh its p2w, but not 100%. not yet.

newer players with no connections need p2w because they realize the difficulty in attaining zeny/gears from nothing. this helps RO generate revenue and stay alive amidst competition from newer games.

older players dont need to use real money because they have the knowledge of conversions and how to apply them, which involves game-related zenymaking tactics that don't utilize p2w to make zeny, yet reap p2w benefits. in example, a person can use their zeny making tactics in game to sustain VIP without using real money, or they can acquire so much zeny that they exchange it for WPE to buy boxes or KP. once you have the knowledge of how to make zeny (and there are many, many ways), you can cross over the boundary of in-game currency to WPE/KP rewards to avoid spending real money entirely.

in the end.. its kinda f'd up. 'they' tell you to go to school and get 'educated'... but then you get out into the real world and learn that every business in the world is trying to capitalize on your ignorance.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 12:15 PM

there are some really good ones from Cash Shop

I don't know when did you start this game, but Physical Shadow Set in the beginning was a box costed 1800 KP

And Vana/Rideword Hat are basic gears for a lot of ppl.
Plus Peco hairband, Robo eyes and this and that.


Even peco peco has drawbacks, faws not much for example, when you have an item that is best in slot with no drawbacks and sold at cash shop, then i dont see it as positive. Actually i dont even think that is good that cash ítems became the normal thing to wear. (Im talking about cash shop exclusives)

Also im pretty sure even if you can get ítems in-game and also in cash shop, there will be people who Will bought it from cash shop because covenience, wich is kind of ok i guess, as long as the game cater to both audiences, ive been playing this game for long time and i knew a lot of people who Will use money to speed up The experience, i mean thats the whole atractive about vip wich i think is fine because just speed up a process that can be achieved at a slower pace by normal means. (And not everyone have the time) The situation is completely different on the gear stuff and when the game make some things that are virtually not possible unless you buy specific cash shop items,like having 100 mdef pierce (right now can be achieved with a pretty los chance on rng after 16.1 was implemented with the vicious mind weapons), or The chb case.

Anyway im not fighting with anyone here, im just stating some things i genuinely think about how this game has turn, i myself used to bought vip very regularly and i like The convenience stuff cash shop bring, like inventory space, less weight blues and stuff like that, i also spend some on costume stuff, i remember i bought a lot of The first costumes they implement (still have those, when they Say costumes Will be that, only cosmetic stuff) at that time you can buy gear from cash shop, lol a CK wich can be farmed aswell, and i know people who actually Rent those gears, go figure hahahaha xD
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 12:24 PM

half correct friend. oh its p2w, but not 100%. not yet.

newer players with no connections need p2w because they realize the difficulty in attaining zeny/gears from nothing. this helps RO generate revenue and stay alive amidst competition from newer games.

older players dont need to use real money because they have the knowledge of conversions and how to apply them, which involves game-related zenymaking tactics that don't utilize p2w to make zeny, yet reap p2w benefits. in example, a person can use their zeny making tactics in game to sustain VIP without using real money, or they can acquire so much zeny that they exchange it for WPE to buy boxes or KP. once you have the knowledge of how to make zeny (and there are many, many ways), you can cross over the boundary of in-game currency to WPE/KP rewards to avoid spending real money entirely.

in the end.. its kinda f'd up. 'they' tell you to go to school and get 'educated'... but then you get out into the real world and learn that every business in the world is trying to capitalize on your ignorance.

 

Not really, it depends on ppl in real life.

Old players pay lots real money too.

Old players who have life i meant no offence = =.

 

at least I am busy I dont have time to farm or what to spend hours on this game, so I sell WPE to exchange zeny to smooth my game play. :ani_swt3:


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