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#26 BoyAtlas

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 11:43 AM

I reset from flash combo to lightning ride build at lvl 125. Its not bad just feels a bit riskier since the dmg is kinda meh and you really have to keep an eye on rising dragon buff since its where your dmg is coming from as well. I find it fun rotating between rampage blast and lightning ride. my main problem is finding the sweet spot in terms of strength gear and EA gear. for example my hbp works wonders for rampage blast but faw works better for lightning ride lol


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Posted 31 December 2017 - 01:32 PM

I also went to for LR build for my PvM Sura but will invest my skills points for Flash Combo later on:  :rice: 



BTW, just starting in this particular class :p_laugh:


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 01:51 AM

i reset to lighting ride build after reading this thread.
30mins after trying out lighting ride build.
Reset back to FC.
i swear i regretted big time
 

Spoiler why

Edited by bearl, 01 January 2018 - 02:09 AM.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 03:23 AM

GT Energy Gain
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 03:46 AM

GT Energy Gain

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 07:58 AM

GT Energy Gain

GT Convert > GT Energy Gain  :questionmark:


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 09:45 AM

GT energy gain will grant you spheres while getting mobbed, so no need to snap out to continue to use LR. I still prefer FC/TC.
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 02:38 PM

both when getting hit or hitting enemies, so hitting a bunch of mobs will give spheres back, even when not getting hit, making continuous use of the skill possible
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Posted 03 January 2018 - 02:03 AM

Just posting this here... https://goo.gl/uUYpka


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 02:05 AM

i reset to lighting ride build after reading this thread.
30mins after trying out lighting ride build.
Reset back to FC.
i swear i regretted big time
 

Spoiler why

At 175, you can get a decent amount of dex/int to get a faster cast time on LR w/o using Keraunos, allowing you to use Gprot/BS Gloves+FLP or whatever combo u use


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 02:14 AM

Just posting this here... https://goo.gl/uUYpka

 

Thank you for sharing. I'll check on this recording this week :)


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 03:37 AM

Just posting this here... https://goo.gl/uUYpka[/size]

 
Great@! i was looking forward to see how LR perform in NCT
GT energy gain seem to help alot there.
there's melee reflect from MBS that helps GT energy gain?

At 175, you can get a decent amount of dex/int to get a faster cast time on LR w/o using Keraunos, allowing you to use Gprot/BS Gloves+FLP or whatever combo u use


trying to level efficiently, that's my main issue.
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Posted 03 January 2018 - 04:05 AM

 
Great@! i was looking forward to see how LR perform in NCT
GT energy gain seem to help alot there.
there's melee reflect from MBS that helps GT energy gain?


trying to level efficiently, that's my main issue.

Consumable wise, it's very efficient. I still have to check exp vs time tho. :v Idk if MBS reflect helps with energy gain, I just use it to make my skills uninterruptible.


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 05:39 AM

i have just leveled my sura to enter NCT,

here's a reference/comparison for FC sura in NCT

https://drive.google...8Y4ziYp6fyitE2l

 

& yes you need to spend quite a sum to gear up and 1 hit KO bigbell with FC


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 08:10 AM

yup, much better build =) Thanks Bearl!


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 01:09 AM

So, as a new player after reading this thread I am still not sure what build to go for. :D Right now I am a high acolyte and do not have a lot of money (can't afford keraunos). what build should I gear up for? For leveling and PvM in general.


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 02:01 AM

sura is not a cheap class to play, without certain gear it wouldn't work efficiently. 

in terms of skill built and gear cost:

Mental Strength AutoCast -> LightingRide Keranuos -> FinalCombo 

 

i'm on thor so the value of items may differs from chaos.

i'm lazy to check chaos market value for the items setup. you got to do your own research


Edited by bearl, 09 January 2018 - 02:03 AM.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:29 AM

sura is not a cheap class to play, without certain gear it wouldn't work efficiently. 

in terms of skill built and gear cost:

Mental Strength AutoCast -> LightingRide Keranuos -> FinalCombo 

 

i'm on thor so the value of items may differs from chaos.

i'm lazy to check chaos market value for the items setup. you got to do your own research

 Thanks for the quick response. So LR is actually cheaper than FC build. However, I already have a vanaguard helmet and a +7 carga mace. If I were to slot the mace with hunterfly cards that would already be a good start for FC build right? Or isn't that worth it and I should get a thanatos mace with hunterfly card?


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 08:05 AM

FC requires you to tank the mob before killing. i strongly do not recommend FC for any budget Sura

either you have great damage reduction gears. or high MHP with good leech. both comes at a cost.

if you were to go for LR keraunos, it's not just the HP leech from HF card you need. Thanatos Hammer SP leech is important as well.

 

Keraunos *2

Vana +9

Thanatos Hammer.

with these you are more of less able to sustain the leveling consumables cost.


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Posted 09 January 2018 - 09:05 AM

FC isnt expensive to get going at all, you dont need to 1shot mobs to be effective with it, and the leech "needed" is the same on any build. FC is easier to start off, but has the more steep curve if you wanna get super efficient with it, similar to DB (you dont need a tao/kiels, but they just take the skill to a whole new lvl)
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 03:10 PM

I find Fc cheap if u have good decent leech gear and it becomes a bit of a breeze once u have thana + rwh and decent hp. whirlwind  and energy gain helps too. I switched to lightning ride and have mixed feelings about it since my ea gear is mediocre at best atm. trying to solo el dicaste seems rough even with insect reduction gear(Dolomedes and horn scarabas hurt. rampage blast and 2 kera's helping with  sp gain makes it still doable. I dont think ea caters to lightning ride as much as i was hoping it would. or atleast not under lvl 150 with a +9 thana mace but ima ride it out till i can afford 2 true chens.

 

I completely forgot lightning ride increases per 15 lvls too with kera's>.<


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 09:53 PM

IMO the only difficulty in the FC route is the amount of jlvls you need to be effective


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 03:52 PM

update im at 150 with a +9 robot arm 2x true chen...Rampage blast one shots anything i touch in scaraba hall 1-2 average hitting for 90-100k and 19-22k with lightning ride  but its really hard to lvl in nct atm still....working on getting happy flappy to see if it'll help. I think lightning ride will remain pretty lack luster though until you get that bio 5 helm..


Edited by BoyAtlas, 06 April 2018 - 04:23 PM.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 05:22 PM

Give us the damn Devil’s Hand already. Sura sucks in PVM.
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Posted 10 April 2018 - 10:36 AM

Sura does suck at PvM. We are just toooooo sllloooowww; kill a "mob" of 3 units, then spend ten minutes to get back some resources. -_-
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