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#1 fuyukikun

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:08 AM

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elemental set is only used for AUTOATTACKS only, if you want 'casual' bolting, just drop the set and use your damage dealer weapon, garment and armor (gosh i dont have flattery robe).


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:23 AM

and for reflect
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:37 AM

you compared a +15 crimson to +9 elemental origin tho.Wouldnt a fair comparison be +15 vs +15?


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:46 AM

would barelly change


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:47 AM

you compared a +15 crimson to +9 elemental origin tho.Wouldnt a fair comparison be +15 vs +15?

 

 

would barelly change

 

the damage difference is quite high. doubt even the +15 origin will be able to catch up.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:55 AM

would barelly change as in a +9 book vs +15 book


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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:16 PM

That's a little disappointing.  I was hoping that it would be a larger boost, but it looks like Crimson Rod wins the day again. 

 

The Thunderstorm and Fireball autocasts, and ASPD boost built into the gear was kind of a red flag to begin with.  TS and FB get no boosts from any of this, so it seemed like a weird throwback to Hindsight Sages/Scholars rather than Spellfist Sorcs.  But it's L100, and I can't see any point in running Hindsight after 100/15.

 

You've crushed my hopes and dreams of clubbing things with a book, but you've saved me a large amount of zeny...so...uh...thank you?  I think...  :p_swt:


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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:00 PM

I use the whole set for bonus +50 MATK only, then switch.

At least melee Sorcerer have AoE now. On Sakray I was easily kill Nightmare Amon Ra and TG with the book+robe, but I guess Immortal Wind Ghost plays bigger role.

I will still use the book, cuz I'm a bookworm and like smacking monster with knowledge
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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:49 AM

this is the one much much more dissappointing.. Adds a 6% chance of buffing the user for 1 minute when using Double Bolt; Matk + 50


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 05:27 AM

Wait, what? A chance?
I check my MATK every time I cast Double Bolt, and I swear I got the MATK buff
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Posted 22 June 2017 - 05:34 AM

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another number crunching.

all tested on fire eggs without fire insignia (it will heal the eggs lol, making it is hard to note the DPS). 1 minute is using timer of herb of incantation. Sorc's repertoire is still the best Water PW + DD + DD + DD + Water PW + DD + DD + DD.

The breathtaking one is the CD in mouth mode autocast, the DPS is splendid, this DPS can solo GMT i guess. while the autocast one with mob scarf is poor, lack of CD bolts = lack of RM procs. Both autocast mode using RM temp agi boots.

While the cold bolt one is really funny, the DPS can be raised using kiel/strings, but wont be as good as others.


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 05:48 AM

still hard to say if it's able to take down Fenrir or not. She has some sizeable mdef to reduce damage, and is ghost so you damage has no elemental advantage. What you can do to increase DPS is weave Pwave casts anytime it is out of cooldown, as it will 99% of the time make make use of the RM proc.
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Posted 22 June 2017 - 05:54 AM

still hard to say if it's able to take down Fenrir or not. She has some sizeable mdef to reduce damage, and is ghost so you damage has no elemental advantage. What you can do to increase DPS is weave Pwave casts anytime it is out of cooldown, as it will 99% of the time make make use of the RM proc.

endow the weapon, cast fire insignia (or water), putting hell apocalypse cards, i guess it is enough to surpass 66,666 DPS (minimum DPS to take her down).


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:03 AM

you are not factoring lost damage uptime from dodging spells and recasting buffs/debuffs. Or simply the initial moments of the fight where you have to walk to her/let her walk to you, and the fact that you can't kill in the last few 5~10 seconds or it still counts as a loss. 
Depending on how annoying she decides to be you have to increase your dps to upwards of 80k+/sec to be able to complete the fight.


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:26 AM

If only Sage Spirit didn't disappear on map change.  That'd be pretty ridiculous.  :p_idea:


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