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#1 Myst45

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 04:20 AM

can anyone tell me if charm does anything for damage over time skills like it does for debuff?


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 05:48 AM

Yes sir charm affects:
1.buff strenght of positive skills
2.debuff strength of negative skills
3.damage over time effects
4.critical protection
5.quest rewards of certain older questlines

Edit:

6. Healeffects + HoT (Heal over Time)


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#3 Feuer

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 06:40 AM

For forgot it increases Heal Power and Healing over Time effects~


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Posted 22 June 2017 - 01:41 PM

It does too damn much.

 

Still crazy that there's classes with a modifier to debuffing from cha, and others have nothing at all.


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#5 Feuer

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:00 PM

Every class has at least one status down that's modified by CHA. 


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#6 Snuwfer

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:13 PM

Every class has at least one status down that's modified by CHA. 

Bow scouts do not, servers are down right now so I can't check others. (I know this because I asked for it to be changed and you threw a fit about it)

I know there is more than 1.


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#7 Feuer

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:20 PM

PvM Web Arrow.

 

I'l wait til you find the other one. 

 

Edit: It's not like you don't have 3 DoT's that scale off CHA though? 


Edited by Feuer, 22 June 2017 - 02:23 PM.

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#8 Snuwfer

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 02:30 PM

PvM Web Arrow.

 

I'l wait til you find the other one. 

 

Edit: It's not like you don't have 3 DoT's that scale off CHA though? 

Nobody uses PvM web arrow except the people that Raphael taught, and even then it's abused on Salamander Flames \ Summons to be applied in a PVP area with a max charm scout, which it was never intended to be used for....

Unless you're talking about actually using that skill in a dungeon, which is hilarious because of the damage mitigation that has happened, and the overall damage it had to begin with, I'd take my chances with poison arrow shower over the debuff, and let the real class who benefits the most from debuffin do their job.

Dots are not debuffs, and scouts dot's are miserably weak, and do not scale well.

 

 

and I'll never find the other one

 

 

you don't even get that skill normally, you have to go out of your way to obtain it, and abuse an aged game to use it in a PVP area... I expect better points Feuer!


Edited by Snuwfer, 22 June 2017 - 02:32 PM.

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Posted 22 June 2017 - 10:52 PM

don't be so toxic boys...

Feuer is feuer but zach, this is exactly the kind of behaviour that brought you in your current situation! Please work on that! You're not 12 anymore :p_angel:


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#10 Feuer

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:06 AM

1: PvM Web Arrow isn't an AoE

2: PaS [Poison Arrow Shower] is an all situation AoE and the DoT isn't mitigated by AoE Reduction [same applies for all AoE Damage over Time effects]

 

>snip<


Edited by VModCupcake, 23 June 2017 - 09:21 AM.

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#11 Snuwfer

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 08:58 AM

Actually just double checked, and sure you're correct it's not an AOE anymore

but it also doesn't scale to cha. Obviously I said I'd use PaS over PVM Arrow web because of the fact that the dot isn't damage migated, hello? You wanna stop shoving your biased logic down my throat?

As for the other one that's PVP, it's crossbow only, and is the one that actually scales to charm, not the regular bow scout, but the crossbow scout. Please, again, stop spewing contradictory biased crap down my throat, it's disgusting and you're better than that Feuer, for the love of god too, stop getting your friends to post\up-vote\quote and continue your meaningless bashing, it's childish and meant for 12 year olds.  :heh:

 

 

as for Matt, don't tell me what to do when I am attacked everywhere I post on the forums. Nothing about what I said was being toxic, I didn't insult or anything like they're doing every day.

I don't have people from my own clan that come onto the forums to bash other players because of whatever reason, get the act right, and point that non sense to those who deserve it, not the guy who is constantly bashed by a group of friends because it makes them feel better about themselves.


Edited by Snuwfer, 23 June 2017 - 09:05 AM.

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#12 Feuer

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 09:05 AM

Actually just double checked, and sure you're correct it's not an AOE anymore

but it also doesn't scale to cha.\

 

Unless they changed it in the last few months, you might want to check again n that scaling thing. 

 

Edit: Strange, that actually DID get changed. *shrug* Interesting, interesting indeed. 


Edited by Feuer, 23 June 2017 - 09:10 AM.

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 09:07 AM

Unless they changed it in the last few months, you might want to check again n that scaling thing. 

https://gyazo.com/a3...4312dfedacca44e

 

https://gyazo.com/55...d21d1862d7a709e

 

 

 

<snip>


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 09:18 AM

Please know that any further off topic comments will result in this topic being locked. 


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Posted 23 June 2017 - 09:22 AM

Unless they changed it in the last few months, you might want to check again n that scaling thing. 

 

Edit: Strange, that actually DID get changed. *shrug* Interesting, interesting indeed. 

the change was actually made i think 2015 (april/june) when they changed the debuff effects on xbow and bow scout


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