Looking for AV advice for bako runs - Archer Class - WarpPortal Community Forums

Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Looking for AV advice for bako runs


  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1 Fuuton

Fuuton

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 2230 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online

Posted 26 June 2017 - 03:36 PM

Basically i never use my performers anymore so i wanted to at least do bako runs with them for fun, if possible

I went into a bako run using the following on a 151 maestro:

+13 kk emh
bdm
syringe
bryn
+14 double dragoon wind crimson violin
+12 deaf mbs
+13 dre (chose survival over dmg for a first test with a lower maestro)
+9 temp dex ea hawkeye
2x sapphire wrists w/ gs cards
+10 phys set
+9 lib/safeguard
+8 saharic

stats were left unchanged because im unsure as to how to set it up specifically for AV.

str 1
agi 100
vit 80
int 83
120 dex
9 luk

problem #1: the main problem i was having is the AV animation delay. you know how when a sorc spellbreaks another enemy player's cast and leaves the enemy standing in place, unable to cast, until they move to a different cell to reset the animation? this is what was happening, which doesnt make sense to me considering the MBS is +12 and should prevent cast interruption. i was able to pop off like 2-3 AV's before getting stuck in place like this.. until i figured out that i had to keep moving cells just to reset the animation. why does this still happen if my cast is uninterruptible?

problem #2: damage. sadly, damage was only around 10-11k per AV... hardly enough to contend with bako's time limit. i was using oridecon arrows with the wind crimson violin, but i did not pop a converter. should i have? should i be using different arrows? (ori seem the strongest with 50atk, unless im missing something in terms of priority overwriting)

problem #3: stats. figured AV might be purely dex based, but after reading "ranged physical damage" on irowiki im guessing i need to build it like a doram w/ 120 str/120 dex for it to be efficient? please confirm.

problem #4: gears. i went dragoon over liberation for price, since this is all a test. should i use silverleather boots over temporals? any gear changes one might recommend?

result of first run: i bwinged. bako wasnt killing me, but i wasnt killing it either so i bwinged out to conserve supplies and figure out a solution.

any detailed information regarding this would be helpful and appreciated (one worded answers are extremely boring so please spare me them)
 


  • 0

#2 Zayaan

Zayaan

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1800 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online

Posted 26 June 2017 - 03:49 PM

I don't think it's possible to kill Bako using AV. Its DPS is just way too low plus he has super high Def that you can't bypass with an instrument. And you have to stand where the Wakwaks spawn to be within AV range so you're gonna die once that happens. Your best bet is to SR it down with a Dragon Wing imo.

 

Scratch that. Get 120 Str and swap to an Ice Pick mid cast. You will need an instrument equipped to begin casting AV, but it'll go off regardless if you switch weapon. Or at least it used to. I'm not sure about now. Also not sure if it actually uses Str to calculate damage when swapping to a dagger, not that you'll have much W.Atk to benefit from Str.


Edited by Zayaan, 26 June 2017 - 03:56 PM.

  • 0

#3 Fuuton

Fuuton

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 2230 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online

Posted 26 June 2017 - 04:06 PM

if i wind up rolling 120 str then i can bust the tengu set for that extra 20%, and maybe try out some different temp combos as well..

weapon switching works during AV? so basically AV but immediately switch while (or even before) the hit/damage connects is what you're saying?

this really makes me wish there were other different types of "race eggs" in noob grounds to test damage against...


  • 0

#4 Zayaan

Zayaan

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 1800 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online

Posted 26 June 2017 - 04:08 PM

if i wind up rolling 120 str then i can bust the tengu set for that extra 20%, and maybe try out some different temp combos as well..

weapon switching works during AV? so basically AV but immediately switch while (or even before) the hit/damage connects is what you're saying?

this really makes me wish there were other different types of "race eggs" in noob grounds to test damage against...

 

You have to switch before the cast bar ends. Like I said, I'm not sure if it still works, or even if my memory is right about it working in the first place! I seem to remember a Gypsy from Valkyrie server killing Goats by switching to an Ice Pick, but I could be wrong on that.


  • 0

#5 mildcontempt

mildcontempt

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 3483 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 26 June 2017 - 04:19 PM

Would Uk of Newoz + ring not out damage a crimson?


  • 0

#6 fuyukikun

fuyukikun

    Disney Prince in Disguise

  • Members
  • 12269 posts
  • LocationIndonesia
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos, on hiatus

Posted 26 June 2017 - 04:32 PM

My performers solo bako using dragon wing from afar. Coz i know bako has really thick def and no whip/instrument able to bypass its defense.
  • 0

#7 fuyukikun

fuyukikun

    Disney Prince in Disguise

  • Members
  • 12269 posts
  • LocationIndonesia
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos, on hiatus

Posted 26 June 2017 - 04:39 PM

Would Uk of Newoz + ring not out damage a crimson?

Ukulele combo has similar dmg to thanatos violin + emerald. Same dmg but more penalized for 50 SP = big no no. I guess +15 crimson violin is the best when paired with double emerald. Currently im using liberation thana violin + 2x emerald earring.
  • 0

#8 Fuuton

Fuuton

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 2230 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online

Posted 26 June 2017 - 07:43 PM

Would Uk of Newoz + ring not out damage a crimson?

 

i'll go with what fuyu said since im not entirely sure damage output, but the reason i chose crimson was due to this being a test with AV. i wound up saving up like 7 crim violins neutral and wind types and had some extra enriched ori saved up from the santa event. got lucky on cheapness and +10'd it then 14'd it on more cheapness with the event.

 

My performers solo bako using dragon wing from afar. Coz i know bako has really thick def and no whip/instrument able to bypass its defense.

really nice bow choice! i didnt even know that existed. is that 100% def ignore for dragons? how do you get around the wakwak spawn?

i tried using the ranger's cell at first with SR maestro, but the distance isnt far enough so it makes the maestro move out of the cheat cell and i got wrecked. then i switched up to an aspd build started wailing on it with autoproc bolts, wargs, and crit combos but the wakwaks came and wrecked me. they hit hard and fast with that many numbers..


  • 0

#9 fuyukikun

fuyukikun

    Disney Prince in Disguise

  • Members
  • 12269 posts
  • LocationIndonesia
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos, on hiatus

Posted 26 June 2017 - 08:19 PM



Dragon wing is the best bako bow period
Not even my liberation bow of storms.
Optimal setup if you use critical bow performers with 120 agi dex luk using temp luk boots (AD4, hawkeye), fatal faw, and such.

Stand at place on video i showed you to avoid wakwaks.
  • 0

#10 Doomsquare

Doomsquare

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 2041 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:iRO Brooms \o/

Posted 26 June 2017 - 09:54 PM

AV's dmg is really really boosted by emrald earrings. Why are u using sapphires.


  • 0

#11 fuyukikun

fuyukikun

    Disney Prince in Disguise

  • Members
  • 12269 posts
  • LocationIndonesia
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos, on hiatus

Posted 26 June 2017 - 09:59 PM

Lol, i just noticed that its is sapphire instead of emerald
  • 0

#12 Fuuton

Fuuton

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 2230 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online

Posted 27 June 2017 - 10:11 AM

@doom

oops, man i didnt read enough on the emerald earrings since i was kind of rushing it. didnt catch the bit about it boosting AV damage, i was just looking at the stats part. i have them but they're not carded and the sapphs have GS... spur of the moment fail choice.

ok so assuming i use the 175 maestro instead of the 151, that's an extra 350% av damage. is STR required for an AV build? do i build it like picky?

@fuyu, thanks a bunch for the vid. that spot is nice, i was using the one that was more southwestern at first. its nice how only meteors affect that spot so i dont have to worry abotu the wind/water portions of magic damage.


if i can find out more about a proper AV build, i'll still push the test. maybe i'll just card 2 of the emeralds after all in that case.

 


  • 0

#13 Ashuckel

Ashuckel

    '-' intensifies

  • Members
  • 18996 posts
  • LocationJohto, Hoenn, Unova, Kalos, Alola
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 27 June 2017 - 10:21 AM

required? no, but it just further boosts damage with the tengu combo. It's fine to not have if you dont want.
  • 0

#14 Doomsquare

Doomsquare

    Too Legit To Quit

  • Members
  • 2041 posts
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:iRO Brooms \o/

Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:05 PM

Think of it as a pure AS ranger. Dex increases it the most, followed by luk, then str.

 

If you're wearing tengu then, 120str is really nice too (ranger meta).

 

One thing you may consider is spamming Double strafle/autoattack until your HE procs before spamming your AV. Then again you'll probably do better dps just relying on SR.


  • 0

#15 Ashuckel

Ashuckel

    '-' intensifies

  • Members
  • 18996 posts
  • LocationJohto, Hoenn, Unova, Kalos, Alola
  • Playing:Ragnarok Online
  • Server:Chaos

Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:08 PM

SR+Double Strafe is really good dps
  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users