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[senpa1]

Res token spamming to kill an mvp shouldn't be a part of the game. Priests can use the skill res, that should remain the only way when fighting mvps.

 

Keep res tokens convenience when you're leveling or something, leave them out of mvping.

 

Discuss

[Hissis]

+1

[Myzery]

They aren't going to cater to requests like this.

[senpa1]

Thank you for the in-depth discussion Myzery

[Ardelle]

If someone's willing to waste that kind of money on something so silly then they should be allowed to. 

[Demeris]

Res tokens are one of the worde things in iRO. There's literally no penalty for dying. Sure you lose exp but who cares if you're maxed lol

[senpa1]

Res tokens are one of the worde things in iRO. There's literally no penalty for dying. Sure you lose exp but who cares if you're maxed lol

 

exactly, if you're a priest and you die at an mvp you should be punished, and/or someone needs to ygg leaf you

 

how can mvps have competition if you can just run up and go full retard to do damage, die > instantly res and repeat

Edited by senpa1, 28 June 2017 - 01:53 PM.

[Ardelle]

exactly, if you're a priest and you die at an mvp you should be punished, and/or someone needs to ygg leaf you

 

how can mvps have competition if you can just run up and go full retard to do damage, die > instantly res and repeat

 

I don't think the function you're asking for is even possible to implement. The game doesn't seem to determine what you died from - only that you died.

 

A better solution would be a cooldown on the tokens, only being triggered every 5 minutes or so.

 

Nonetheless at the current levels it's not likely to become enough of a problem to warrant extreme measures. The people doing it clearly don't care about how much money they're wasting, all for a chance at a piece of ori/elu and maybe some loot if they're lucky.

Edited by Ardelle, 28 June 2017 - 01:55 PM.

[Demeris]

Old school Ragnarok had no tokens. Tokens just open up for poor play and just ressing over and over again to get another hit in.

But we all know Warpnportal won't remove it. If it gives money, why take it out?

[senpa1]

I don't think the function you're asking for is even possible to implement. The game doesn't seem to determine what you died from - only that you died.

 

A better solution would be a cooldown on the tokens, only being triggered every 5 minutes or so.

 

Nonetheless at the current levels it's not likely to become enough of a problem to warrant extreme measures. The people doing it clearly don't care about how much money they're wasting, all for a chance at a piece of ori/elu and maybe some loot if they're lucky.

 

1. It can be disabled on specific maps, idc what killed you on the map

 

2. Mvps only drop ori/elu? you clearly don't know what you're talking about, why are you posting in the thread?

Edited by senpa1, 28 June 2017 - 02:02 PM.

[Ardelle]

1. It can be disabled on specific maps, idc what killed you on the map

 

2. Mvps only drop ori/elu? you clearly don't know what you're talking about, why are you posting in the thread?

 

1. And what about all the people using the map legitimately? For example should everyone leveling on greatest generals be punished for one person buying a ton of tokens to kill Eddga very slowly? 

 

2. I never said the only drop Elu and Ori, I just said those were the most common drops and that's all most kills will see. MvPs drop useful loot, yes - but the loot drops at a significantly lower rate than the two most common drops of each one - that being, oridecon and elunium, MAYBE an OBB if they're lucky. If they're willing to spend 100+$ or more on a chance at a 20% drop off an MVP, then while I question their sanity it's fully within their rights at the current moment, until Campitor or the other GMs decide otherwise. 

[senpa1]

1. And what about all the people using the map legitimately? For example should everyone leveling on greatest generals be punished for one person buying a ton of tokens to kill Eddga very slowly? 

 

2. If they're willing to spend 100+$ or more on a chance at a 20% drop off an MVP,

 

1. well if you don't want to get punished then don't die, there's not that many maps with mvps on them

 

2. you can buy 20 res tokens for $2

[Ardelle]

1. well if you don't want to get punished then don't die, there's not that many maps with mvps on them

 

2. you can buy 20 res tokens for $2

 

1. Many of the maps with MVPs are common leveling maps. Greatest Generals - Eddga. Orc Warriors - Orc Lord. High Orc - Orc Hero. 

 

2. Be that as it may, all I did was propose a solution that a) avoids punishing players using the items/maps as intended and b ) solves the problem. If you're just going to resort to name calling because someone doesn't agree with you wholesale, then I'm done here.

Edited by Ardelle, 28 June 2017 - 02:18 PM.

[senpa1]

all those mvps take under 2 minutes to get to from town

[Ardelle]

all those mvps take under 2 minutes to get to from town

 

If that's the case, then a 5 minute cooldown on the tokens should be fine, yes?

[senpa1]

that's a bigger nerf overall for casual players, as opposed to disabling them on mvp maps

[Ardelle]

then don't die

[ChakriGuard]

I prefer they disable res skill and keep res token in cash shop. Or maybe remove both res skill and the token.

[Myzery]

Thank you for the in-depth discussion Myzery

 

This has been brought up with the launch of every new server and tokens have never been disabled.
Most people won't abuse them like this, but like someone else mentioned, a lot of MvP maps are prime lvling areas, so it would screw over more innocent players than it would some guy with a lot of money to waste.

I could care less either way, but I have nothing against people wasting their money. More often than not, the cost isn't going to justify the reward.

[zilahmonsan]

If someone will waste $2 for an ori/elu, please go ahead.

[senpa1]

This has been brought up with the launch of every new server and tokens have never been disabled.
Most people won't abuse them like this, but like someone else mentioned, a lot of MvP maps are prime lvling areas, so it would screw over more innocent players than it would some guy with a lot of money to waste.

I could care less either way, but I have nothing against people wasting their money. More often than not, the cost isn't going to justify the reward.

 

It gets brought up every time because anyone with a brain would support it.

 

You know better to know that the cost of tokens is insignificant compared to the loot. 

[Myzery]

Later on, most definitely. It's worth using tokens.

I just don't really agree or disagree, but if you can get them to change it, that would hopefully pave the way to QoL changes in the future.

[osueboy]

stop whining about something as meaningless, i can warp my monk/champ and fist atroce every 20 seconds. respawn in prontera INN get sp buff and warp again, fist bwing and etc, you get the point doesnt matter if it dies or not, it will come back.