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#1 yauhoilun

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 09:19 AM

So with introduction of cylinder and later bio5 hat, CC is now the new meta for many genes. However, AB still has some utility on certain MVPs like Ifrit.

My question is if you can reduce fixed casting time enough with Fenrir card and after cast delay enough with Kiel card, would AB still outperform CC in terms of DPS for general use in MVPing?
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Posted 05 July 2017 - 09:56 AM

simply depends wich MVP you are fighting. If they take strong bomb damage yes, if doesnt (or take significant CC dmg) then no
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#3 yauhoilun

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 10:16 AM

simply depends wich MVP you are fighting. If they take strong bomb damage yes, if doesnt (or take significant CC dmg) then no

 

Thanks for the insight Ash.

 

Do you think this would be limited to only a few MVPs though?

 

Just want to get a general sense to decide if this AB setup is worthwhile to invest in.


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Posted 05 July 2017 - 10:29 AM

You can always just use both skills at the situation shen they do best. It isnt a completely different build with completely different gears.
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#5 yauhoilun

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 10:37 AM

You can always just use both skills at the situation shen they do best. It isnt a completely different build with completely different gears.

 

Well I am talking about Fenrir and Kiel cards for AB so these are completely different gears!


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Posted 05 July 2017 - 11:46 AM

except the fenrir, you use the same stuff for acid bomb and CC. And since you already have(i presume?), it isnt a gear investment, rather a build choice. 
Kiel is nice for both since Acid Bomb has 1s delay and CC has 0.5s delay. Fenrir is only used on bomb since CC has no fixed. Going or not for temp dex is also up to you since Fenrir alone equals to temp dex+ sacra basically.


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#7 yauhoilun

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Posted 05 July 2017 - 11:59 AM

Thanks Ash that helps a lot :rice:


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 01:35 PM

Is it feasible now to just have a very low dex initially (1-30 dex) and pump str and int first (100-120 int/str)? That doesn't mean i'm not getting 100-120 dex eventually, of course. I just want to know if pumping str and int first is a better progression now.

Not sure if related since it's only a short question


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#9 jamdonutjam

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 02:00 PM

ofc

 

you can go 1 dex all the way from high merch since cart revo ignores flee


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 02:08 PM

Well I already have two genes. I'm just considering resetting their stats. Thanks! I didn't know cart revo ignores flee. lol.


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Posted 15 July 2017 - 10:58 AM

Apparently because the cylinder is BiS you will now 100% always kill the mvp faster than any class and 100% all mvp cards drop for you.
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