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[okamyzin]

Hey guys i just started my first wizard ever and im having all kinds of troubles, i would appreciate some help.

 

How should i put my attributs ? PvP/Woe build vs PVM

 

How sould i put my skills points ?( im having all kinds of problems here, i want to pvm and go woe but cant find a good build for both, i need safety wall for woe but i had to put points in firewall in order to up )

 

Well im just really confused about everything, i cant farm the itens i need because i cant put points on some skills and stuff like that...

[DexRain]

Start with Firewall 10 / Firebolt 10 for leveling as a mage then start working towards safety wall, only get the minimum required levels to get your wizard skills (spending a few second class job points to get SW is ok too)

 

Vertical Firewall/SG will see you through most of your mage/wizard career if you're soloing, parties you'll mostly be using SG and cleaning up mobs with Jupitel Thunder if there isn't a secondary DPS

 

Skill order a WoE build that PvM early, Firewall 10, Firebolt 10, Safety Wall 10, Storm Gust 10, Jupitel Thunder 10, Quagmire 4, Lord of Vermilion 10

 

This is a pretty solid precast build, you will be spending wizard job points on some first class skills but that's fine.

 

If you want to go for a more MvP hunting oriented build drop LoV for Ice Wall and bump Quag up to lvl 5, put the last 3 points in Sense and Increase SP Recovery

Edited by DexRain, 12 July 2017 - 07:35 PM.

[Melu]

why quag 5?

[DexRain]

greater agi/move speed reduction and longer duration, helps keep mobs off you / away from party and lowers the damage being dealt to the tank since the monsters aren't hitting as fast

[Chisami]

greater agi/move speed reduction and longer duration, helps keep mobs off you / away from party and lowers the damage being dealt to the tank since the monsters aren't hitting as fast

 

Yeah, Quagmire is so underappreciated. However, even I passed on it so far this build. I just wasn't interested in earth skills this go around.

 

This is by far, one of my favorite things about this game though. So many alternative builds and choices!

[umizu]

how essential is safety wall? i wasn't sure how to build my wiz and the skills are currently at - http://i.imgur.com/OfrS0Mj.png

i can still get icewall 10 / quag 5

there's a skill reset you can buy through the store somewhere isn't there?

[Vienna]

People who suggestion Ice wall 10, do you know that your own AoE spells now break it? SGing on something in ice wall will kill it very quickly. I didn't think it would be as worth it with that nerf?

[Krispin2]

how essential is safety wall? i wasn't sure how to build my wiz and the skills are currently at - http://i.imgur.com/OfrS0Mj.png
 

 

It's good, but by no means mandatory.

Most of its use is in pvp/woe cause it's not really worth blamming a ton of blue gems on standard monsters. (they're heavy too)

For keeping enemies off you firewall and safety wall both kind of do the job where firewall is more pve oriented while safety wall is pvp oriented.

Personally I'm not getting both cause it's just too many points.

 

Don't see any love for meteor storm.

It's a shame since its the only aoe spell that doesn't create a field of effect allowing it to be cast on top of any other aoe including other meteor storms and not lose efficiency.

This is also pre-99 trans so most people do not have 100vit, which means it can do its job of stunning people.

 

And never forget to take water ball, the best and most versatile spell in the game.

All us cool kids use it.

Edited by Krispin2, 13 July 2017 - 01:28 PM.

[umizu]

if i'm just going to MVP on the wiz, is it worth getting any vit? or just go straight 99int/dex

[okamyzin]

Start with Firewall 10 / Firebolt 10 for leveling as a mage then start working towards safety wall, only get the minimum required levels to get your wizard skills (spending a few second class job points to get SW is ok too)

 

Vertical Firewall/SG will see you through most of your mage/wizard career if you're soloing, parties you'll mostly be using SG and cleaning up mobs with Jupitel Thunder if there isn't a secondary DPS

 

Skill order a WoE build that PvM early, Firewall 10, Firebolt 10, Safety Wall 10, Storm Gust 10, Jupitel Thunder 10, Quagmire 4, Lord of Vermilion 10

 

This is a pretty solid precast build, you will be spending wizard job points on some first class skills but that's fine.

 

If you want to go for a more MvP hunting oriented build drop LoV for Ice Wall and bump Quag up to lvl 5, put the last 3 points in Sense and Increase SP Recovery

i always felt that LoV was bad as -_-, at least on PvM i cant feel its effect to be honest is it worth getting?

 

Why no one likes Meteor?I was thinking about getting it over LoV to Pvm or something.

 

What does Sense do for me?I think i can look everything on internet.

 

Also i wanted to know if it is still worth it to get ice wall after this nerf, and whats ice wall use vs MVPS?

[Krispin2]

Ice wall on mvps is for separating the enemy and its target from the rest of the party typically in some kind of corner to create a totally enclosed space so that it can't switch targets. (monsters ignore targets they can't reach with any attack)

 

And I agree about LoV and getting meteor over it, heck thunderstorm is almost as strong.

But it does have some utility in woe because of the massive position lag is causes to targets hit by it.

[okamyzin]

Ice wall on mvps is for separating the enemy and its target from the rest of the party typically in some kind of corner to create a totally enclosed space so that it can't switch targets. (monsters ignore targets they can't reach with any attack)

 

And I agree about LoV and getting meteor over it, heck thunderstorm is almost as strong.

But it does have some utility in woe because of the massive position lag is causes to targets hit by it.

Cool ice wall thing, about WOE my clan will have 2 wizz or more so the other one can spam LoV, i think i will give up on this skill 

[DexRain]

Yeah LoV was more a Woe suggestion since you'll be using it to stack with SG, SG is really the only mandatory AoE as a wizard, the other choice is up to your personal playstyle.

 

Wasn't really aware of the ice wall nerf (came back to renewal in January after a ~5 year break) if that's the case though feel free to spend those extra points however you want =]

While I personally love waterball (especially classic mechanics waterball with insta-cast)  I'm not sure how viable it is without the pororoco combo or sages to drop deluge, makes leveling in stings ezpz, and it's fun to kill drake with I guess XD

[DexRain]

heck you could even spec into fire pillar for woe since it's pre-trans, a whole line of them around a portal still hurts like heck

[Melu]

quag 5 reduce the walking speed of mob more than quag 3? i dont know if this is true. i believe that the only difference its the duration of the skill and the stat reduction but for every level the walking speed is the same or i am wrong?

[Krispin2]

I believe the movement speed reduction is the same regardless of level.

Duration does increase on higher ranks, but you can just dump it in front of someone and they'll pretty much have to go through it.

[DexRain]

It's super helpful in PvM, especially towards end game when you'll be mobbing, hard hitting, usually fast moving mobs.

 

Does it still remove agi up in PvP/WoE?

[Krispin2]

I'd be surprised if it didn't.

[Kervaz]

What about getting high damage for a wiz?

 

What should I aim for equip-wise to get high-highest or at least decent mAtk possible as the server is right now?

 

 

[Ballmeat]

Hate to break it to you guys, but Ice Wall is disabled on almost every/every map that contains a MVP.