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[edfer]

Hi there,

 

I am very confuse right now. I cant decide what is the best for WOE or PVP. I asked many people regarding that, some says go for 4xbloody and the most people says go for 2bloody2boned. If you were to choose? what would it be the best weapon for PVP/WOE?

 

Thanks

[Ashuckel]

dont use [4] weapons with damage cards. If you want to do damage, pick a weapon with both high atk and some slots.

cards only affect your weapon/equip/ammo atk, [4] weapons have low atk, thus cards are very ineffective on them.

[jedpay]

well right now pike[4] is the only 1H spear good to use unless there's a better 1h spear. and i think 2bloody2boned is better than 4hydra imo.

[Ashuckel]

Poll Axe [1] is the current best.(drops from Gryphon, Turtle Gen, Bloody Knight, as of current implemented monsters)

Not sure if Battle Hook[2] is implemented as of now(Abysmal Knight drop), but that would be 2nd best.

[Ignasia]

I don't think you could equip the battle hook if weapon restrictions for renewal apply.

[JPFariia]

Sometimes it is not good to use more than two copies of a card in the weapon. If you combine cards, the percent damage of the "second" new card applies to the first one! So, 2x boned 2x bloody is always better than 4x bloody!

[Ashuckel]

2x SW and 2x Hydra = 1,3*1,4= 1,82

1x SW and 3x Hydra = 1,15*1,6= 1,84

[187150329122126350]

Pole axe[1] is best, Flameberg[2] is second best. Battlehook is trans only.

[Gabriel92MS]

Flamberge is not even a spear.

[187150329122126350]

Still better then pike and all spears beside pole axe.

[Gabriel92MS]

But still cannot use any spear skill.

Edited by 1199150630192304937, 24 July 2017 - 05:49 PM.

[Sadrake123]

The pole axe has a drop rate of 0,01%, I doubt someone has even dropped one yet, the second best would be a Gungnir [2], but it has the problem of being Wind Element. Right now the best 1h Spear would be a 1 SW 3 Hydras Pike

Edited by Sadrake123, 26 July 2017 - 03:36 AM.

[DFreak423]

Gungnir[2]

[trctelles]

I know Pike[4] sucks, but it's the "best" for knights to fight Pasanas+ Anubis on sphinx. You can use a Cranial Shield and Pike, BB the Pasanas and Pierce the Anubis. I think it's the only way to do it efficiently, as of now

[Aylee]

I know Pike[4] sucks, but it's the "best" for knights to fight Pasanas+ Anubis on sphinx. You can use a Cranial Shield and Pike, BB the Pasanas and Pierce the Anubis. I think it's the only way to do it efficiently, as of now

 

With 80 STR, +7 Double Andre 2-handed sword, buffs and aspersio, my Knight kills Anubis with 6 Bowling Bashes which is roughly the time it takes for a TU priest to cast TU 3x. It'd be 5 BB if I had mantis accessories or zipper bear weapon. Piercing Anubis will take far too long. 

[Ashuckel]

mantis doesnt make that much difference, in fact, is almost negligible.

[Swingman13]

With 80 STR, +7 Double Andre 2-handed sword, buffs and aspersio, my Knight kills Anubis with 6 Bowling Bashes which is roughly the time it takes for a TU priest to cast TU 3x. It'd be 5 BB if I had mantis accessories or zipper bear weapon. Piercing Anubis will take far too long.

[Swingman13]

What is your equips for anubis? Your not 1 hit on dark strike and jupitel thunder?

[DFreak423]

a +10 Pike[4] isn't really that bad, it's just terrible to use only % cards with it. 2x zipper bear 2x hydra will be a ton stronger than 2xSW 2xHydra, 3xZipper Bear 1xHydra may be even better than 2x/2x. Since size/race/element cards only effect weapon attack now, adding 2 zipper bears to a pike doubles it's weapon attack, from 60 to 120. 3 zippers would make it 150.

[Ashuckel]

Zipper/Andre cards are Equip Attack, not weapon attack.
Both ate affected by % cards, but are different types on damage calculation, and the difference will get more important later on in the game updates.

[Havana9]

So the order is:
1) pole axe
2) Gungnir
3) pike 2 zipper 1 Hydra 1 skel
4) pike 2 Hydra 2 skel

Is it right?

[LionelFaylard]

You could certainly do a damage-focused spear for now, but I was under the impression that as a knight, you might want to focus more on status infliction than pure damage.  Or at least carry both types of spears depending on situation.  (That gets pricey though.)

[Ashuckel]

So the order is:
1) pole axe
2) Gungnir
3) pike 2 zipper 2 hydra
4) pike 2 Hydra 2 skel

Is it right?

 

now it is

[LionelFaylard]

now it is

 

Wouldn't the Pike [4] with 2 Zipper, 1 Skel Worker, and 1 Hydra give just a slight overall damage increase given the +5 attack that is added?  It looks like the damage is negligible (about a 1% increase), but I would argue your third slot should have 1 Skel Worker/1 Hydra and not 2 Hydra.

[NamzaKaren]

According to the wiki, 2 str give +1% base weapon damage.

 

http://irowiki.org/wiki/ATK#WeaponATK

 

Pike

base dmg = 60 atk

2 str = 0.6 atk

100 str = 30 atk

total = 90 atk

 

w/ 2 Zipper Bear, 1 Skel Worker, 1 Hydra

(90 + 65) * 1.15 * 1.2 = 213

 

Poll Axe

base dmg = 160 atk

2 str = 1.6 atk

100 str = 80

total = 240 atk

 

w/ 1 Hydra

240 * 1.2 = 288

 

Haven't included refine bonus & variance yet.

 

^ Are those correct?

Edited by NamzaKaren, 10 August 2017 - 12:03 PM.