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[mickeydee]

to Myrm/ Overlord players that spent hundreds, plus, on their characters.

How much better is your character in pvp, bsq, EW ( back in the Thq days)? Myrms have no defensive skills, no block or evade, so we just get hit easily and die. We can't really lock well ( yes i know the lock cycle, and most lag walks outta it), and out burst damage we deal, the opponent just escapes and healed. For the most part, we're not a clutch (gamechanger) class that can make a pvp team better. Does putting money on myrms make the class much better? ( enchant weapons, armour, cash gear) im guessing, no matter how stacked a myrm is, we still lose to pf's, ninjas, pallys ( of course), and shamans 1v1.

I wanna know from Myrms/ Overlords that are stacked, was it worth it?

Edited by mickeydee, 17 December 2010 - 08:13 PM.

[PieIsGood]

to Myrm/ Overlord players that spent hundreds, plus, on their characters.

How much better is your character in pvp, bsq, EW ( back in the Thq days)? Myrms have no defensive skills, no block or evade, so we just get hit easily and die. We can't really lock well ( yes i know the lock cycle, and most lag walks outta it), and out burst damage we deal, the opponent just escapes and healed. For the most part, we're not a clutch (gamechanger) class that can make a pvp team better. Does putting money on myrms make the class much better? ( enchant weapons, armour, cash gear) im guessing, no matter how stacked a myrm is, we still lose to pf's, ninjas, pallys ( of course), and shamans 1v1.

I wanna know from Myrms/ Overlords that are stacked, was it worth it?

first off myrms can lock too and im not stacked but its not that bad as u make it sound. likes put ninjas for example. Oh yay they blocked... catch with sd, hammer, use some bears, when lots of cds (after sd and hammer again) then go use some wyvern and storm, when they air recovers stumble, gust slash, hammer, sd, hammer, bears, wyvern, storm... how hard is taht. if they arent dead or something u can do it again. in group pvp... u got 2 tornado spinny haxors... it works out pretty nice when u make ppl fly in the sky and think when are we gonna come down. tahts my opinion at least.

whats yours?

[mickeydee]

i consider myself a great myrm player. im likely better then you. i feel myrms are very limited for the money one would put into it. I know myrms can beat every class 1v1 except pallys and shamans (if able to hit through evade stackers). i had my fair share of pf's ragequitting on me even though they spam aas 1v1. and ninjas that sleep log 1v1 is easy to avoid. you must not pvp at the 5x or 6x levels, i take it. a full (old) bone armour stacked myrm is still a myrm. at fourth class, myrms get nothing. so in the highest lvl 4th class pvp, i feel as myrms, we're still 3rd class with nothing new to offer to our team. i guess myrms are more of a saving/ support class, it is not always good to launch your opponent and hit WB + SB because youll be an easy target to be hit and locked/ frozen/ frog/ slept.


is it woth putting money on a myrm? would a myrm with +12 armour and a +12 weapon, randomizing to get max agi for aim, add so much to the character? with the monster cards coming out soon, myrms dont have any good lvl 10 skills to compete vs other lvl 10 skills (slow heal, block).

id like to know before i waste money on a so called stacked myrm.

[Yurai]

i consider myself a great myrm player. im likely better then you. i feel myrms are very limited for the money one would put into it. I know myrms can beat every class 1v1 except pallys and shamans (if able to hit through evade stackers). i had my fair share of pf's ragequitting on me even though they spam aas 1v1. and ninjas that sleep log 1v1 is easy to avoid. you must not pvp at the 5x or 6x levels, i take it. a full (old) bone armour stacked myrm is still a myrm. at fourth class, myrms get nothing. so in the highest lvl 4th class pvp, i feel as myrms, we're still 3rd class with nothing new to offer to our team. i guess myrms are more of a saving/ support class, it is not always good to launch your opponent and hit WB + SB because youll be an easy target to be hit and locked/ frozen/ frog/ slept.


is it woth putting money on a myrm? would a myrm with +12 armour and a +12 weapon, randomizing to get max agi for aim, add so much to the character? with the monster cards coming out soon, myrms dont have any good lvl 10 skills to compete vs other lvl 10 skills (slow heal, block).

id like to know before i waste money on a so called stacked myrm.

With the information you posted, you sound like a terrible myrm player.

[mickeydee]

With the information you posted, you sound like a terrible myrm player.

thanks for keeping our servers up, loser. go drop another thousand on this lag, bug infested game with no new real content in over a year

[PieIsGood]

thanks for keeping our servers up, loser. go drop another thousand on this lag, bug infested game with no new real content in over a year

ur a pro myrm player? u make me laugh. ill pvp u and ill win gimme ur ign even though i suck balls at pvp i woudl destroy u 5-0, so u have full myrm bd heirloom? big s-_- ign:xApathy pm ill r@pe u np np lollol

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yes this was random flame... but flame wars start over stuff like this #1 just come over to pm me or w/ me ingame rawr.

Edited by PieIsGood, 19 December 2010 - 05:41 AM.

[Severfang]

thanks for keeping our servers up, loser. go drop another thousand on this lag, bug infested game with no new real content in over a year

he's telling the truth though, if you cant win without stacking your myrm with cash up to its eyeballs, you dont deserve to be playing it, and getting agi on randomed items? pass, go health cause ur set actually gives massive CD and aim rate, i've played against myrms on my dragoon that tore me to shreds without being overly stacked, and i've heard of myrms beating ninjas very easily, and i've thrown a few for a loop myself on mine, to say that your class isnt good because of its skills is to say that yurai is pro because of his evade and weapon, although his stats are high, they're only there from luck (not saying he's lucky, just saying that theres always the possibility of stuff never happening), and at this point could have been attained without spending a dime on the game, if you wanna spend cash on your myrm go ahead, but you DONT NEED IT to be any good. pvp skill is just that, skill.

[Endrance]

pvp skill is just that, skill.

No offense but you don't need any skill to play this game, or most MMO's out there for that matter. Go play a fighting game if you want skill based gameplay.

Lol this isn't the place to be looking for that. It's just too laughable.

[Severfang]

No offense but you don't need any skill to play this game, or most MMO's out there for that matter. Go play a fighting game if you want skill based gameplay.

Lol this isn't the place to be looking for that. It's just too laughable.

button mashing isnt skill dude >.>

[Endrance]

button mashing isnt skill dude >.>

Lol, you're just too funny. Not all fighting games are a button-mashing noobfest. Unless you play crap games like Naruto or Dragon Ball ones.

Go give BlazBlue a try, or Street Fighter. Either way this game is still terrible as far as Vs. goes.

[Paxon]

ur a pro myrm player? u make me laugh. ill pvp u and ill win gimme ur ign even though i suck balls at pvp i woudl destroy u 5-0, so u have full myrm bd heirloom? big s-_- ign:xApathy pm ill r@pe u np np lollol

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yes this was random flame... but flame wars start over stuff like this #1 just come over to pm me or w/ me ingame rawr.

He's the kind of gladiator that sits in one room with other op equipped gladiators farming for new people with a 2 win one loss record.

[Yurai]

Lol, you're just too funny. Not all fighting games are a button-mashing noobfest. Unless you play crap games like Naruto or Dragon Ball ones.

Go give BlazBlue a try, or Street Fighter. Either way this game is still terrible as far as Vs. goes.

Please tell me you can't get far button mashing Noel's drive. In any case, I do understand your point, and even after playing games such as those competitively for a short amount of time, I still do find some skill in the Dragonica PvP system, albeit not as much as those other ones. If you want to see a player's skill here, you'd have to fight them in a balanced match, and the results are obvious for the most part.

Edited by Yurai, 23 December 2010 - 09:46 AM.

[Endrance]

Please tell me you can't get far button mashing Noel's drive. In any case, I do understand your point, and even after playing games such as those competitively for a short amount of time, I still do find some skill in the Dragonica PvP system, albeit not as much as those other ones. If you want to see a player's skill here, you'd have to fight them in a balanced match, and the results are obvious for the most part.

Noel does have her problems and even then the second game tried to balance it more by making her damage output lower. Either way BlazBlue's the most balanced fighter I've played in a long time. Sure you can get away with button-mashing as Noel but if you're fighting a competent player you won't get very far.

This game isn't bad but still requires minimal skill compared to good fighters out there. It just irks me when people talk about PvP skill in this game being absolute when you have to put forward rules and limitations to do a match that's solely based on skill and even then some luck may be factored in as well, such as critical hits, ect.

[Mikay]

was it worth it?

Yes and no. Yes because if you know how to play a myrm well, you should be able to compete against any other stacked class.
But at the same time, after playing a myrm as my main char I still feel like if I made a pally/ninja instead and put the same
amount of time, effort and funds into it, I'd be better off. That's just my opinion, I always liked ninja's especially just
could never be bothered lvling mine.

[Balladd]

to Myrm/ Overlord players that spent hundreds, plus, on their characters. How much better is your character in pvp, bsq, EW ( back in the Thq days)? Myrms have no defensive skills, no block or evade, so we just get hit easily and die. We can't really lock well ( yes i know the lock cycle, and most lag walks outta it), and out burst damage we deal, the opponent just escapes and healed. For the most part, we're not a clutch (gamechanger) class that can make a pvp team better. Does putting money on myrms make the class much better? ( enchant weapons, armour, cash gear) im guessing, no matter how stacked a myrm is, we still lose to pf's, ninjas, pallys ( of course), and shamans 1v1.I wanna know from Myrms/ Overlords that are stacked, was it worth it?

Honestly, post-patch I've only spent about $20 on my Overlord and was still able to get it a decent gear.If you know what you're doing, you'd feel the need to have such defensive skills pointless. As for locking.. lol. Overlords can be good in offense and support, especially in a team match.

Also, pointing out your statement that we didn't have any good level 10 skills, SD gets extra loops. Stun hammer's stun rate is also raised significantly iirc.

[Tarmendeos]

Oh wait. Could you elaborate on SD's level 10 changes, Ballad?

[Balladd]

Oh wait. Could you elaborate on SD's level 10 changes, Ballad?

6/10 - Weapon ATK 55% + 210, cool 3sec, knock 7
7/10 - Weapon ATK 58% + 240, cool 3sec, knock 8
8/10 - Weapon ATK 61% + 270, cool 3sec, knock 8
9/10 - Weapon ATK 67% + 330, cool 3sec, knock 9
10/10 - Weapon ATK 76% + 415, cool 3sec, knock 9

At level 5, it increases by ~1 inch. So I'm assuming at level 10 it gives another inch, or an extra loop.

Also, I'm sorry for the very late reply. Haven't checked this thread in a while.

Edited by Balladd, 30 December 2010 - 07:54 AM.

[Tarmendeos]

I see. Well, that's a spot to dump points into, in any case. Thanks Balladd!

[Yurai]

I doubt sword dance will increase distance after level 5. Looking at the trend for other skills, stun duration does not increase. Netbind does not increase duration past level 5, either. I'm pretty sure that sword dance would follow the same trend and the distance would stop increasing. If not, I don't know why sword dance cards are so cheap in the market.

[Tarmendeos]

Well, stun durations don't increase but for Rocket Punch and Hammer Crush, stun % does. I'm optimistically writting off Sword Dance's increase in range as a % increase in "chance of catching the opponent", which, if you think about it, it technically is.

I think the low cost of SD cards in the market stems from Goons/Overlords having so many places to put points in that SD becomes somewhat neglected. I mean, the total AP costs for SD if I understand it are 30 for level 1, 70 for level 5, and 120 for level 10. I'm certainly not going to have that much AP to spare if I want to max out Shield Block/Spin it Bear, etc.

[Balladd]

I doubt sword dance will increase distance after level 5. Looking at the trend for other skills, stun duration does not increase. Netbind does not increase duration past level 5, either. I'm pretty sure that sword dance would follow the same trend and the distance would stop increasing. If not, I don't know why sword dance cards are so cheap in the market.

I may be mistaken since I haven't tested it myself yet due to the absence of monster card insurance. A person also tested it in IAH and took a screenshot of SD at level 5 and level 10.

http://forum.iahgame...rd dance&page=5

Second to the last post. Although it would be really great if I could confirm it myself. Monster card insurances pls

Edited by Balladd, 01 January 2011 - 11:02 PM.

[Yurai]

I guess it does make a marginal difference, but I doubt it's enough to justify the skill point and extra mp consumption.