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[Hoaxmaster]

Lets think about the avg group of players.

[Xellie]

implying the people who do the seals for vh aren't average?  Like what are you trying to say? The seals consistently used to get pushed by 1~2 players. 3 max. The final quest you just need a wizard, a strings(alt), the guildleader(alt), a bomber(alt), a scholar(alt), and some gwings. You can even alt most the party. You don't need special gear just a finger to hit the right button with. 

 

The only time you need a hugemongu-_- party is if you're going to be comped.... 

[Hoaxmaster]

My opinion on what i think of vh is of no concern to the public forums. Not gonna debate either. Im just stating issues and concerns some players are having.

[Xellie]

why should you make gods easier than I did? We rolled the seals from 0-100 several times, usually spearheaded by one single person. We did the quest with 3 people several times. You're making excuses.

 

None of our items matter in the confines of that quest, everything is done with an average wizard and a biochem. 

 

You just want it to be easier and you're using the population as an excuse. Well the seals never rolled themselves before either.  So what on earth is your problem?

Edited by Xellie, 29 July 2017 - 10:20 AM.

[Hoaxmaster]

Im not the one trying to make gods so plz dont make assumptions on my motives. Im not making excuses, and the only thing i want is th gms to show some sort of pride in classic.

[Xellie]

You haven't even said why it's hard.

 

You think the GMs are going to be able to read between the lines? 

 

It's not hard, it's tedious. I'm sorry you guys guildleader abandoned you, but that doesn't mean it should magically be easier for you than it was for anyone else.

[Hoaxmaster]

Wow,you just dont get it. Its not about me and i cant make that any clearer. And tbh it is sad tmc left but it is what it is. I have seen many guilds come and go in my time so its nothing new. After all the time i have been here you know im not worried about me. Tbh i could run make a god with help from a friend. But its not about what i can do. For the last time im just relaying a msg of what some other players say. So if you feel the need to explain it to somone then make a forum thread and teach them how.

[Xellie]

I thought I just explained how in this thread, but you persistently just can't say why it's hard.

 

individuals are not supposed to make gods. They are guild items. It sucks but that's the truth. That's why the stupid quest was put in. I don't see why it should be easier for ANYONE else, regardless if I think they're a friend or foe. 

 

It's literally about getting a a small group together, doing 400 quests and then doing 4 kill counts. And holding a castle. 

 

Alternatively pay to get it made? 

[Rastaban]

itt people squabble over who gets to rule a dead server.

[teresias]

Dedication over numbers. Thats what I've learned by pushing seals for a guild multiple times when my interest to play Classic is at its prime.

[lxst]

it was me who brought up god likes, my bad yo.

 

i believe the point was some of classics systems could use a second look, in regards to classics game play and economics. in truth nothings really wrong with the current god quest. however, i personally, wouldn't feel confident leading 2 others (non of which have ever killed the god quest mvp) to complete it. but that is just me. and mostly because i've never done it myself. the entire system kind of falls apart with a lower population. and in a perfect world the answer would be more classic players/guilds. 

perhaps the problem is really just me. that is entirely possible. all i was trying to do was to put my feelings into words. and to not call out any one source for my negativity.  

[Dinu123]

lol widout woe there wont be any god made

[Prodigy]

it was me who brought up god likes, my bad yo.

 

i believe the point was some of classics systems could use a second look, in regards to classics game play and economics. in truth nothings really wrong with the current god quest. however, i personally, wouldn't feel confident leading 2 others (non of which have ever killed the god quest mvp) to complete it. but that is just me. and mostly because i've never done it myself. the entire system kind of falls apart with a lower population. and in a perfect world the answer would be more classic players/guilds. 

perhaps the problem is really just me. that is entirely possible. all i was trying to do was to put my feelings into words. and to not call out any one source for my negativity.  

 

 It sounds like you can get 2 other people to help you with the mvp. I say go for it and try. As Xellie said, there's zero comp right now so you can take your time fighting that quest MvP and figuring out how to deal with it.

[Xellie]

You can always ask someone that's experienced to help you ^.~ Just push the seals *yourself*

[Dinu123]

making seals is easy only thing left is , if ur not woeing den how to get the god pieces 

[Budeg]

WHAT THE HELL? I was away for a few months, felt nostalgic, hopped back in and BOOM.

 

No more players. I mean, I've always been a self-priest-attacker guy, but what is with Re:Start? Why did the classic players leave? Can somebody point me out to the right thread, please?

 

What I currently know, Ragnarok is having a fresh new start with renewal mechanics with Ragnarok Re:Start, basically a brand new world.

 

What I want to know, is why did the classic players, players who liked the old classic times, move to re:start? We weren't here for the ol' times mechanics and all?

 

(I mean, jumping janeway sure did a lot to change the experience...)

[Ecclesio]

WHAT THE HELL? I was away for a few months, felt nostalgic, hopped back in and BOOM.

 

No more players. I mean, I've always been a self-priest-attacker guy, but what is with Re:Start? Why did the classic players leave? Can somebody point me out to the right thread, please?

 

What I currently know, Ragnarok is having a fresh new start with renewal mechanics with Ragnarok Re:Start, basically a brand new world.

 

What I want to know, is why did the classic players, players who liked the old classic times, move to re:start? We weren't here for the ol' times mechanics and all?

 

(I mean, jumping janeway sure did a lot to change the experience...)

 

I'm not sure why you're so shocked by this -- given that Classic was arguably neglected by the GM team for YEARS this was the eventual result of such.

 

My guild left because our rare guild items got hacked and stolen and despite the fact that the GM team knew where the items were they refused to do anything to assist us in recovering them so we left. The GM's thought that that hackers' privacy was more important than a guild of players I guess. 

[Xellie]

I'm not sure why you're so shocked by this -- given that Classic was arguably neglected by the GM team for YEARS this was the eventual result of such.

 

My guild left because our rare guild items got hacked and stolen and despite the fact that the GM team knew where the items were they refused to do anything to assist us in recovering them so we left. The GM's thought that that hackers' privacy was more important than a guild of players I guess. 

 

I had a similar case - the GMs told me to ask the guy and get the items myself.

Warnhal eventually contacted me and said the GMs were in the wrong =/

[Budeg]

So... Is this it? Is this the end for classic?

[Xellie]

probably.

 

rip classic