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#1 Djurisk

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 05:44 AM

Hey guys,

 

 

What would be best in terms of damage? Having a +5 Gakkung [2] with 2x Archer Skel or a +5 Hunter Bow[1] with 1x Archer Skel? And would that be the same for racial damage cards as well?

I'm Agi/Dex and I DS a lot.

 

 

Thanks for the help :)


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Posted 07 August 2017 - 06:05 AM

hunter bow if archer skel or racial damage cards, just do the math...

+5 hunter bow = 150 atq; +1 archer skeleton card = 1.1*150 = 165 atq; +1 20% racial damage card = 1.2*150 = 180 atq.

+5 gakkung bow = 125 atq; +2 archer skeleton card = 1.2*125 = 150 atq; +2 20% racial damage card = 1.4*125 = 175 atq. 

 


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#3 DFreak423

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 06:06 AM

Generally speaking Archer Skeleton will beat out size/race/element cards most of the time because of the way they work in renewal. size/race/element damage cards apply to weapon attack only so if your attack value looks something like 150 + 100, the right number is weapon attack, so say hydra +20% is just +20% of 100, or +20. While +ranged/crit damage bonuses are total damage effect that are applied after adding your attack values together.


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#4 Djurisk

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 06:11 AM

Ah ok, wasn't sure how Renewal worked tbh. Thank you =)


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Posted 07 August 2017 - 07:17 PM

hunter bow if archer skel or racial damage cards, just do the math...

+5 hunter bow = 150 atq; +1 archer skeleton card = 1.1*150 = 165 atq; +1 20% racial damage card = 1.2*150 = 180 atq.

+5 gakkung bow = 125 atq; +2 archer skeleton card = 1.2*125 = 150 atq; +2 20% racial damage card = 1.4*125 = 175 atq. 

are you sure about the calculation sir?

 

I am using this simulator

http://calc.irowiki.org/

 

showing that +5 gakkung [2] AS2x give higher DMG output than +5 hunter bow [1] AS1x

 

so the DMG output will be

arbalest 2AS < Hunterbow 1AS < gakkung 2AS


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Posted 07 August 2017 - 07:37 PM

was pointed out already, he didnt applied the bonus from AS cards to status atk.

Anyways, the damage simulator on calc.irowiki isnt quite correct, use this one instead to compare gears
http://calculator.crmindexer.org
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Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:43 AM

are you sure about the calculation sir?

 

I am using this simulator

http://calc.irowiki.org/

 

showing that +5 gakkung [2] AS2x give higher DMG output than +5 hunter bow [1] AS1x

 

so the DMG output will be

arbalest 2AS < Hunterbow 1AS < gakkung 2AS

 

Gakk has the highest output tried and tested


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Posted 08 August 2017 - 11:44 AM

Aight, cool. Thanks guys.


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