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[Varcieh]

^ I couldn't agree more.

 

[Pixelakaroxi]

I couldnt care less if something I say is annoying you or not to be honest. However,

 

you do make a good point with the being betrayed thing, this should have been known from the get go and this whole issue would have been avoided. There are other really useful MVP drops besides cards though, that you can still very much capitalize on. If you wanna try and get MVP cards feel free to come to chaos and camp endless tower all day every day.

 

The topic is about Odin lacking end game. Well like I said, IMO MVPs are not part of the end-game here, they're more of a continuous thing, and if you're here JUST to fight MVPs, RE:Start might not be the best place for you, as the idea here is more to re-experience the game's progression again and not rush to Nightmare Biolabs in a month. The server is supposed to be constantly being updated, let's take the 2-2 classes for instance, how about for the time being, farm those MVPs for useful gear for those upcoming classes, and not only the cards. Try and see some good in this. I like the fact that there are virtually no boss cards available here. You'd be surprised how annoying it is to try and play any competitive aspect of the game when everyone is geared up with god tier stuff. They don't want that to happen here precisely because you guys who love camping mvps would quite eventually make it happen here too. The timing is not right for that. In my understanding they're trying the same approach with WoE so we don't have 1 or 2 guilds stacked up with god items and +10 gears making it impossible for anyone else to even enjoy WoEing a bit.

 

Everything takes time and this is, once again IMO, a nice way of trying to control things.

 

BUT

 

this should have been announced from the get go.

[Philione]

you dont even get what we are talking about. mvp cards are a part of this game so they should be available.

 

as if i i would have started playing here, when i knew that loottable BEFORE serverstart. theres no difference to any private server with those kind of features.

[Pixelakaroxi]

you dont even get what we are talking about. mvp cards are a part of this game so they should be available.

 

as if i i would have started playing here, when i knew that loottable BEFORE serverstart. theres no difference to any private server with those kind of features.

 

 

Sigh. I dont get how deluded you are. You'd really be OK with people parading with say Tao, Hatii, and SK cards right now? At this stage of the server? 

 

2-2 classes are also a part of the game, they will be available, just not YET.

[Wolfen]

Thank you.

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It's quite entertaining to read some of the posts from those that are defending the decisions taken by some other server in another region, and us being forced to follow suit because -reasons-.

Throwing terms such as "tryhard" and using it in a negative connotation, using it as an argument to devalue the opinion of someone that plays the game differently, just for the sake of it, is quite annoying.

We want the MVP cards back. Most of us will never see a card dropping. How many times have you killed that one monster while you leveled and you never got a card? I'm sure that more than one will say that they've killed 999999 Raydrics and they never got a card. Imagine us, the MVP hunters, that can only kill an MVP once every hour, with competition, and we invest consumables that are not cheap in the process.

This is not only about the card dropping. We want the thrill of knowing that there's a very small chance that after our 9000 kill we'll get something good. Chances are this won't happen, but it means a lot to us. In a game ruled by RNG, we like that feeling.

Now. A lot of the problem currently lies on the fact that we didn't know that cards were removed from most MVPs. We feel betrayed. If we had known this was a thing, we might have not invested so much time gearing up or hunting for the slim chance of getting something good.

The fact that we're 99 and we have gear to MVP doesn't mean that we rushed through the game to do this. We leveled at our own pace. If that differs from yours that doesn't mean that our argument is less valid. We want to like this game, we want to play it. But it feels bad when the company behind the game does things like this. It alienates us.

The way you play the game might be more common than our style. But in the end, you need us as much as we need you.

You do bring some good points, i never meant that rushing to 99 was bad, i was complaining about the people who did it and complain about the lack of things to do, when there is the social aspect and the gear hunt still out there.

Yes, i do agree that the GM made a huge -_- up by not anouncing the removal of cards before, specially with the rumors of prople having an orc hero card even with it removed (if someone have a pic evidence, i would love to see it, so please pm of it woul de apreciated). The only thing i disagree is in the part on that this kills endgame, i just feel there are enough things to do right now

[Philione]

of Course I am okay with that. why not? if someone is lucky enough to find a mvp card because he invests much time into the game, then he totally deserves it.

[Kirx]

well. only matter of gear because of insane magical damage ,

Mag Dam is cancelled because the gears bonus effect becomes zero. INT stats causes the MAG DAM to hit the 9999?9 CAP that is already illegal cos of the cracked damage calculator.

[Exvee]

You do bring some good points, i never meant that rushing to 99 was bad, i was complaining about the people who did it and complain about the lack of things to do, when there is the social aspect and the gear hunt still out there.

Yes, i do agree that the GM made a huge up by not anouncing the removal of cards before, specially with the rumors of prople having an orc hero card even with it removed (if someone have a pic evidence, i would love to see it, so please pm of it woul de apreciated). The only thing i disagree is in the part on that this kills endgame, i just feel there are enough things to do right now

The very least thing is state why GM decide this. I honestly in minority that MVP cards are something that make PvP aspect not fun (and why Chaos server people avoid PvP now, we don't want Mage class are useless with bunch of GTB users).

 

The other reason is you can search how RMT forum rampage out there (Chaos server is literally S>MVP Card $$$ only) and back in Chaos server, WP team get more work to sorting out this problem if players found out to break game rules...

 

If they can't program MVP card for PvP only or want to avoid RMT tickets then just deliver words. Players asked Campitor and even doesn't know why.

[azor123]

this thread is so dumb,

arguments between [Removed] that play ro to socialize and normal players.

 

idk why the gm would even think about disabling mvp cards, that make literally zero sense.

just shows that this server is a dumb copy-paste of roph, and that iRo got zero control on what to do for the future.

Edited by VModCinnamon, 27 August 2017 - 03:17 PM.
Please be polite & don't call people dumb.

[Varcieh]

You do bring some good points, i never meant that rushing to 99 was bad, i was complaining about the people who did it and complain about the lack of things to do, when there is the social aspect and the gear hunt still out there.

Yes, i do agree that the GM made a huge up by not anouncing the removal of cards before, specially with the rumors of prople having an orc hero card even with it removed (if someone have a pic evidence, i would love to see it, so please pm of it woul de apreciated). The only thing i disagree is in the part on that this kills endgame, i just feel there are enough things to do right now

 

What gear hunt? I have everything i need. The only upgrade would be +10.

 

If there are enough things to do atm, please enlighten us by telling us, we are listening.

[Ambur]

It's like someone mentioned somewhere, they don't have them overseas because they plan to sell them. If we never plan to sell them I don't see why we shouldn't already have them.

[Myzery]

Yeah, speculation is truth. Campitor already said if they sell them in any capacity, they will be put in as drops here.

[MistressTIfa]

I'm just more astonished at the fact that the GMs here couldn't just customize it to iRO standards instead of just getting a Copy Paste version of thRO/pRO and calling it iRO.

Which explains the reason why we have more weird things going on like the exp difference in certain monsters (Mi Gao, Stings, Majos), MVP Cards not dropping (all but 2 which the 2 are not really useful at all) that are in place which are just localizations of their server.

[Pixelakaroxi]

 MVP Cards not dropping (all but 2 which the 2 are not really useful at all)

 

not useful at all    ? Are you playing the same game as we are?

[Easly]

Pretty dumb to not have MVP cards in game, Even dumber to not make this announcement when the server started. If i was one of those people who spent a bunch of KP on tokens and foods to MVP and hopefully get a card id be doing a charge back and leaving this game for good. Every day this servers looking more and more like a money grab before WP shuts their doors.

 

All they had to do was run a 1 or 2 week test to work out the kinks and then wipe the server.

Edited by Easly, 27 August 2017 - 11:22 AM.

[Wolfen]

What gear hunt? I have everything i need. The only upgrade would be +10.

If there are enough things to do atm, please enlighten us by telling us, we are listening.

You can begin hunting BiS gear for your alts or the 2-2 clases that are coming. You can get them to job 50 for when they are releases.

You can hunt for lvl 4 slotted overupgraded weaps (+7-+10) like zweihander, mailbreaker, weaponbreaker, infiltrator, slaughterer, excaliburg or gungnir. Just to name a few.

[Myzery]

Pretty dumb to not have MVP cards in game, Even dumber to not make this announcement when the server started. If i was one of those people who spent a bunch of KP on tokens and foods to MVP and hopefully get a card id be doing a charge back and leaving this game for good. Every day this servers looking more and more like a money grab before WP shuts their doors.

 

All they had to do was run a 1 or 2 week test to work out the kinks and then wipe the server.

 

It seems like they didn't even know. No one knew we were getting a copy/paste server version until people noticed some of the job change quests and other NPC dialogue was gibberish.

[MetalKitten]

It seems like they didn't even know. No one knew we were getting a copy/paste server version until people noticed some of the job change quests and other NPC dialogue was gibberish.

 

I really want to like this game, and I really want it to succeed. So I'll say it:

 

Not knowing is not an excuse. This is a company that is making a profit out of this game. They need to be on top of things and looking for the happiness of their population, not the population overseas.

 

I'd like for things to be rectified. If they didn't know, fine. Now they know, and they should make things right.

[Myzery]

They can't make changes without approval from kRO though. I'm not saying that it is justified one bit, but when they are powerless to make changes without permission, the only thing we can hope for is that Campitor relays our dissatisfaction to the kRO team and they respond.

[Easly]

It seems like they didn't even know. No one knew we were getting a copy/paste server version until people noticed some of the job change quests and other NPC dialogue was gibberish.

 

 

The fact that they didn't know is the problem though. It almost seems like they got an email from kRO one day saying "here new server, open now" and they just said okay, with minimal or no testing at all.

[Myzery]

The fact that they didn't know is the problem though. It almost seems like they got an email from kRO one day saying "here new server, open now" and they just said okay, with minimal or no testing at all.

 

Yeah, it does seem like that. I imagine it like our Classic, one of those servers got permission to have a "Re:start" server and then kRO was like "OPEN NOW"

[RealGarion]

So yet again an issue that could have been avoided if anyone had done thier homework on WP ... well at least i have my daily reason to complain ...the world is still ok.

[MetalKitten]

That's all fine and dandy, we all make mistakes. I'm just hoping that they can rectify this sooner rather than later. I'd personally like to see something being done about the fact that there was a mess up and it's within their reach to make it abundantly clear, to whoever takes this decision, that the community didn't like it and that just like many other issues plaguing the game right now, they need to fix or risk having yet another reason for their player base to quit.