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[SeikenDensetsu]

Hi all,

 

I've been having difficulties getting on at regular times due to work, and as a result its hard for me to coordinate with my friends to play.

 

Out of frustration and a need to try something new I am contemplating making a tank sura whilst using a genetic to play with some BBs.

 

However I am entirely out of touch with what gears, stats, skill builds and setup to use, but I have tried to take a look at the forum posts for an idea, even though there are no specific threads for it.

 

I'd list a few things I was planning to use, so please advise if anything stands out that is retarded or missing and I'd definitely consider them.

 

At the moment I can afford decent gear but it doesn't mean I can just buy what ever I want, since I no longer can do RO as much as previously due to work commitments.

 

Here goes:

 

Top: +12 Turkey on Head [1] ? Card vs +12 Palace Guard Cap [1] ? Card

Middle: Sunglasses [1] ? Card

Lower: Mob Scarf (planning to do 120 vit and 40 agi for the +10% Hp bonus?)

Manteau: +9 FAW [DR] 3x Vit enchants vs +10 Etran's T-Shirt [DR] which gives 10% HP, multiple resistances, and anti knockback

Armor: Variety of elemental armors with common cards like marc card and bathory. ? Abusive Vit enchants of any use? what about 350 def from the new holy coat thing?

Shield: +12 Mad Bunny [1] with Alice card: Shield gives uninterrupted cast, reflect damage to keep mvp on sura, alice card for defense?

Shoes: Temporal vit slotted with firelock soldier or vit enchants with muscle fool?

Spirit King ring x2 for vit +10. ? 2x Kafra blossum cards?

Weapon: Really have no idea @.@

Shadow gear: Really have no idea ><

 

Stats: 120 vit, 40 agi (for mob scarf bonus), rest into str and int for pot carrying and for mdef???

 

Again, thanks for the help =p

 

 

Edited by SeikenDensetsu, 25 August 2017 - 06:44 AM.

[Agonizing]

For tanking purpose:

top = abysmal knight helm

middle = mask of hero

lower =

maneau = +10 dr etran (best friggen gear for tanking class and anti knock back)

armor = abusive with vit enchant if you're rich OR a +9 holy coat

Shield= +12 royal mad bunny

shoes =  temp vit with rudo card (for mini eddga effect)

weapon = long mace with either def enchant or mdef enchant

 

 

[Zayaan]

Give me 1 very good reason to use Mad Bunny instead of Immune Shield.

 

If the MVP wasn't spawned by a BB it won't change target while a player is in its attack range. And if it was spawned by a BB, it'll behave the same once its AI is activated.

The only exception to this is Fallen Bishop, who drops target after casting Grand Cross/Grand Darkness and will attempt to go after the player attacking him, but even that can be prevented easily by positioning yourself correctly.

[Ashuckel]

i prefer 3d glasses mid, and DR HBP instead. There arent many elemental threats, specially when using Mental Strenght. If anything, just take out DR/use an elemental armor.
 

[SeikenDensetsu]

Thanks Agonizing, Zayaan and Ash ^^ ~

 

For tanking purpose:

top = abysmal knight helm

middle = mask of hero

lower =

maneau = +10 dr etran (best friggen gear for tanking class and anti knock back)

armor = abusive with vit enchant if you're rich OR a +9 holy coat

Shield= +12 royal mad bunny

shoes =  temp vit with rudo card (for mini eddga effect)

weapon = long mace with either def enchant or mdef enchant

 

That is a great idea. I think with the hero mask reflect it helps to keep the boss on the asura, and frees up the lower headgear slow for a toy syringe? Have there been many occasions where you needed the rudo card effect?

 

Give me 1 very good reason to use Mad Bunny instead of Immune Shield.

 

If the MVP wasn't spawned by a BB it won't change target while a player is in its attack range. And if it was spawned by a BB, it'll behave the same once its AI is activated.

The only exception to this is Fallen Bishop, who drops target after casting Grand Cross/Grand Darkness and will attempt to go after the player attacking him, but even that can be prevented easily by positioning yourself correctly.

 

Actually what you say makes sense with what agonizing mentioned, with mask of hero the reflect is there so the additional neutral reduction does seem useful. I am planning to use this more for BBs as these days good mvps are fully camped apart from those which are instanced.

 

i prefer 3d glasses mid, and DR HBP instead. There arent many elemental threats, specially when using Mental Strenght. If anything, just take out DR/use an elemental armor.
 

 

Seems like you are stacking neutral defenses Ash, what is the highest neutral stacking you can do?

 

 

 

 

Overall I can see quite a few combinations to do. For general tanking are there suggestions for other cards too? Which mvps give you more headaches tanking and what do you do with them? I had a look at shadow gears and was thinking if I take away the MBS for an immune I need someway to continue uninterrupted cast. Is it worthwhile using shadow gears to do that? Spellflow set? For the sake of discussion, holy coat was mentioned for its def bonus. Since a tao takes 50% of def does that mean a Tao and Holy coat are theoratically incompatible for tanking?

 

So far for cards, alice for shield is all agreed (unless someone has a gtb?), rudo card is suggested for shoes, and DR for mant. Everywhere else is still a bit meh, lol

 

 

 

Edited by SeikenDensetsu, 25 August 2017 - 03:56 PM.

[Ashuckel]

Honestly, 95% of the mvps in this game you can tank with absolutely no gears, just Mental Strenght itself. Pick gears for what you actually need reductions.
In any case, if you are going to just tank with the sura, then it means that another class is going to kill it, and at this stage of the game, most classes can kill most mvps in a matter of few seconds or less.

You'd only use gtb if you are under the risk of getting dispelled (Valk,bio4s) and that poses a threat, or if the enemy has an stupid high magic damage (malangdo coelacanth, but you can circunvent this one with a specific gear set)

Edited by Ashuckel, 25 August 2017 - 04:06 PM.

[lorenz1375]

Madbunny isnt so important if you have mask of hero or vice versa since you'll only need reflect to prevent change attack

You can simply just have gfss + any mf boots provided the skin is compounded with flamel/immine/dr , if you use dr might as well use valk shield to lessen the elemental damage

Also syringe helps a lot, if you have sources of reflect other than mask of hero like pirate dagger you can just allocate the midgear for status resistance like silence

[SeikenDensetsu]

If there a reason why you pick gfss over etran? and yes i should consider valk shield as well. Overall I think I have a grasp of what is needed, the next step is to die to an mvp whilst trying it, heheheh

 

Thanks Ash and Lorenz ^^ ~

 

 

[lorenz1375]

You use gfss because it is cheap, bio mvps are the only ones you'll really need the anti knock back anyway since theyre really fast, even then I still dont use etrans anyway lol especially if you have reflect since the mobs will likely follow you through hell

[PervySageMarty]

So long as you dong suffer a knockback, i see no real need for a reflect headgear, since it only takes a matter of sevonds for killing mvps anyways, waiting an initial 3 seconds to cement the mvp attention to the sura tank doesnt seem to waste any more pots or precious time.