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#76 CadburyChocolate

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 02:38 PM

hmm that is something i might have overlooked in my test since i was aiming for HD/TS/FN+ Soulstrike per hit if it would worked. lemme test again

 

EDIT: It seems to be the case, all bolts raining down are high level bolts from Lunar


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 03:34 PM

I am currently doing the autocasting on my Sura, and I am doing soul strikes, so my findings are ccontradictory of everyone elses.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 03:37 PM

I am currently doing the autocasting on my Sura, and I am doing soul strikes, so my findings are ccontradictory of everyone elses.

 

How it works is like so

 

Skills Lunar Rainbow shares with CD in Mouth, Cold, Fire and Lightning Bolt. When autocasting occurs, the Lunar Rainbow takes priority.

 

Skills Lunar Rainbow doesn't share with CD in Mouth, Soul Strike. This is the only skill that will cast from the CD in Mouth.

 

This means that CD in Mouth is redundant if you use both Lunar Rainbow AND Hindsight, let alone a Hindsight while being Soul Linked.

 

Whether or not using the CD increases the chances of activation are a mystery.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 03:48 PM

I understand then.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 03:48 PM

from past interactions of overlapping autocasts that i've seen, the one that is taking priority is the one wich chances are based on.
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:28 PM

How it works is like so

 

Skills Lunar Rainbow shares with CD in Mouth, Cold, Fire and Lightning Bolt. When autocasting occurs, the Lunar Rainbow takes priority.

 

Skills Lunar Rainbow doesn't share with CD in Mouth, Soul Strike. This is the only skill that will cast from the CD in Mouth.

 

This means that CD in Mouth is redundant if you use both Lunar Rainbow AND Hindsight, let alone a Hindsight while being Soul Linked.

 

Whether or not using the CD increases the chances of activation are a mystery.

This is it from the looks from it, only soul strike is from the CD

 

As for CD increasing the chances of activation, it's a No i think, also based from what ash say.

 

Notice when you have just CD alone and trigger that 5 sec, every hit will cast either any of the bolts. with lunar ON with CD, when CD activates, not every hit gives off autocasting


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:42 PM

How about Hindsight and bolts auto casted from spirit lvl 3 passives? As far as I understand Hindsight is counted as different source (I don't have Lunar yet, and I can't play at all this week, so can't test it)
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Posted 03 September 2017 - 05:42 PM

How about Hindsight and bolts auto casted from spirit lvl 3 passives? As far as I understand Hindsight is counted as different source (I don't have Lunar yet, and I can't play at all this week, so can't test it)

Hindsight is totally separate, it triggers well. Hopefully biolabs 5 will allow us to soul link inside.


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 12:08 AM

What about spirits level 3 passives?
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Posted 04 September 2017 - 12:48 AM

After some testing, I can say that all sources CAN proc off of a single hit, it is just the RNG of it all.

 

But between CD in Mouth and Mob Scarf, the scarf just trumps it. The sheer force of 360 MATK really just pushes your damage to another level. CD in Mouth does however give you the option to use Hero Mask, but I would still argue it isn't worth the trouble. However if zeny is an issue, CD in Mouth is still completely fine.


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 01:59 AM

After some testing, I can say that all sources CAN proc off of a single hit, it is just the RNG of it all.

 

But between CD in Mouth and Mob Scarf, the scarf just trumps it. The sheer force of 360 MATK really just pushes your damage to another level. CD in Mouth does however give you the option to use Hero Mask, but I would still argue it isn't worth the trouble. However if zeny is an issue, CD in Mouth is still completely fine.

Including the bolts? I am currently testing right now and am never procing lvl 1-5 bolts with Lunar on

 

EDIT: Once CD 5 sec effect, RNG shouldnt be much of a factor for lvl 1-5 bolts


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 02:28 AM

Including the bolts? I am currently testing right now and am never procing lvl 1-5 bolts with Lunar on

 

EDIT: Once CD 5 sec effect, RNG shouldnt be much of a factor for lvl 1-5 bolts

 

Yep. I am fairly confident, but not 100% as in some cases things just all shot off at once and it was hard to keep track.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:07 PM

sharing some setup to reach 193 aspd with lunar rainbow:

 

no need ventus

consumables only awak pot and enrich celermine juice

 

first setup:

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elemental robe for 10% ASPD

FAW is deviant spell enchant

boots is agi, aspd, runaway magic

 

pros: tankier (deviant garment)

cons: less magic DPS

 

 

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using flattery robe instead of ele robe for more MATK

FAW is acid fatal enchant

 

pros: more magic DPS

cons: squishier

 

both setup using ASPD costume garment, +8 physical earring, +9 rapid pendant


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:53 PM

I tried this, however I find that you need shield defense sadly.

 

EDIT

 

So doing some math in the old stat simulator, there is a way to do this at 100 base agi.

 

The idea is that including 2 FLAT ASPD, Awakening Potion and Enriched Celermine, you needed about 70% (every 10% ASPD is approximately 2 FLAT ASPD at 100 base Agi) ASPD; so I had two potential setups.

 

Fallen Angel Wing ASPD1/AD3/AD3 (21%)

+9 Temporal Agi Boots AD4/RM (19%)

Mob Scarf (10%)

+9 Elemental Robe (10%)

+7 Physical Earring/+9 Rapid Pendant (7%)

Bakonawa Tattoo (10%)

Keraunos (5%)

 

or

 

Fallen Angel Wing ASPD1/AD2/AD1 (15%)

+9 Temporal Agi Boots AD4/RM (10%)

Mob Scarf (10%)

+9 Elemental Robe (10%)

+7 Physical Earring/+9 Rapid Pendant (7%)

Horn of Kirin (7% + 2 FLAT)

 

Both setups could do what needed to be done (with some flexibility) and you would still be doing okay, however you sacrifice some damage.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 01:05 PM

Apologies for the double post :U

 

Decided to try Missy with the new approach, was a few issues but nothing that put me in any danger, just gotta take more notice of what is AGI UP and what is just RNG pulling a fast one with constant wind procs.

 


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:16 PM

mike, hotkey the glasses swap

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:21 PM

mike, hotkey the glasses swap

thank you

 

I am hoping I will eventually not have to :U


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 11:11 AM

I am a returning sorc player (level 132) and a fan of the autocast/hindsight build. When I played I had high crit (around 100 i think) and could hit ASPD 193 without Ventus (ran Int/Luk/Agi build).  While this was somewhat fun, I didnt do enough damage. Since a lot has changed since I last played, I think I may try the autocast/hindsight build again.  I have learned a lot from reading the comments here, but I am still curious about some things.  Is there a way to have a viable autocast/hindsight crit build?  Also, do you need to have RM on the boots?  The rate at which it drains your SP is a huge turnoff


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Posted 30 September 2017 - 11:26 AM

I am a returning sorc player (level 132) and a fan of the autocast/hindsight build. When I played I had high crit (around 100 i think) and could hit ASPD 193 without Ventus (ran Int/Luk/Agi build).  While this was somewhat fun, I didnt do enough damage. Since a lot has changed since I last played, I think I may try the autocast/hindsight build again.  I have learned a lot from reading the comments here, but I am still curious about some things.  Is there a way to have a viable autocast/hindsight crit build?  Also, do you need to have RM on the boots?  The rate at which it drains your SP is a huge turnoff

 

Yes it is viable.

 

Yeah the SP drain sucks, but 200 INT is a huge boost.


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Posted 07 October 2017 - 07:40 PM

Double Posting but EH

 

 


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 11:39 PM

Tripleeeeeeeeeeee post

 

 

My reaction to the Celine Brooch,-_- the wannabes thinking this is good for for general magic, this is -_- godly for auto cast.

 

I need to rework some gears, but once I do I will do a post a video.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:32 AM

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 01:13 AM

Enjoy! I really can't wait to boost the damage and fully own GMT while afking :U

 


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 01:49 AM

Enjoy! I really can't wait to boost the damage and fully own GMT while afking :U

 

 

does it autocast Vspear and Egrave spell  learned lvl?


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 01:58 AM

does it autocast Vspear and Egrave spell  learned lvl?

 

I don't think so. But the damage is still very significant because base level scales etc.


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