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#1 9851170220163549840

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 07:07 PM

• Leveling?

 

A. F7

B. Expert mode

 

• Getting +20 wep?

 

A. Get gold then purchase.

B. Craft your own.

 

• End-game Weap (Ninja)?

 

A. BDL element weap +20

B. POS +20

 

• F1 farming?

 

A. Kryos.

B. Alexandre.

 

Ninja Build?

 

A. Health

B. Agility

 

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How about F1 farming or Hidden Map? which is better or more effecient?

 

Thanks in advance. and give me some advise, I Love you all~

 

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 07:43 PM

B

B

A PvP, B PvE

B

A PvP, B PvE


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:31 PM

A

A

B

B

A

 

 


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:52 PM

A

A

B

B

A

 

Why F7 over Expert:? I'm actually just a little confused with this one but I do think expert is better. I did expert from 60-70 in a very fast pace. Any proof explanation?


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:07 PM

It's a matter of preference obviously in F7 you don't have to do much.

Simple as that. :D


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:11 PM

^^ Well yea! hahaha thanks and love hearing your thoughts :Emo_13: :Emo_13:


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 09:51 PM

Well to be more specific

 

Leveling

 

A) If you take the game slow

B ) If you are in a rush and love to grind

 

+20 Weapon

 

A) Buying a +20 weapon is a better choice for new players in my opinion. You just need to find a reasonable seller who wont charge u 10k+ gold. (or any crazy amount)

B )This can be considered
1) Use 5 Silver Coins Event Insurance Scrolls would be a good way to get on a +20 Weapon with a little bit of effort

2) In case you are buying Insurance Scrolls u will have to rely on RNG success upgrades
    which on a bad day COULD cost u more than just buying from a reasonable +20 Weapon seller

 

End Game Weapon

 

A) BDL is debateable. Of course that 100 more Ele DMG (PvP) would "kinda" matter in PvP

B )But overall POS is the better choice in my opinion even in PvP it scales well enough with Wood Rush since it scales with your final damage (and other skills). And of

    course u will clear dungeons much faster.

 

Meaning no much difference in PvP but its different when it comes to PvE

 

F1 Verglas vs Bear Claw

 

40 Health Alexandre Gloves approx 11.000 gold as of the market right now
vs
40 Agi 10% Crit DMG Shoes approx 10 gold (Pennies) at Crispin (NPC)

 

i think this explains itself

 

Agi vs Health

 

Health Build) With the right build any ninja can reach 1080+ Health and 40% Final Critrate -> makes it not worth to stack for Critrate if its maxed anyway (lul)

 

Its safe to say that Agi lost relevance (in my opinion) because you dont gain evade anyway which makes it pointless

 

 


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 10:01 PM

^ nice explanation :Emo_12: :Emo_12: My Ninja is currently on AGI build. Guess I'm gonna switch over to Health by the time I get those eq.


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Posted 28 August 2017 - 01:25 AM

Leveling

A) f7 if you're lazy
B ) expert mode actually gives more exp than f7 and also less boring so if you're not lazy then go for it. Suggested expert: verdurous forest

+20 Weapon

A) prefer to buy if you found someone that sell cheap weapons and ofc only weapon lower than 70. Nowadays you can find a cheap one heirloom lv65 +20 with crit dmg opt for around 20k-30k. If you craft it yourself you will waste more gold than your imagination. Especially when there's no ongoing enchant boost event and also weapon's enchant rate is lower than armor.

End Game Weapon

B for POS. It was under testing so many times by me, pos and BDL weapon actually give the same damage in pvp or the different is not that bigger than 50 amount of dmg. Pos gives more physical attack and BDL gives more Element attack. It's the comparison of normal damage per hit but what about critical damage per hit? pos will surely give higher critical damage because your critical damage will only scale with your physical atk, not ele atk.

So pos is better overall in pve and also in pvp.

F1 Verglas vs Bear Claw

If you wanna have a stable income then go for verglas with the goal to farm plasma/silver and socket card because it's much faster to finish verglas than bear.

If you wanna try your luck or think you're lucky then go for bear. You need longer time to finish 1 run bear than verglas but have chance to get the glove that cost 12-15k. Some friends of mine did 100+ runs without getting it tho so not recommended.

Agi vs Health

Pvp health
Pve Agi

Of course you can still reach 40% Final crit if you build health but it means you will have to invest a lot more of it than just building Agi. So if you're only for pve then simply go for Agi will save you some gold.
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Posted 28 August 2017 - 01:41 AM

  • Leveling : Depends on your current gear and level. B would definetely be better if you are the kind of guy to enchant your weapon early (though I tried to go in Expert dungeon at level 25 and earned less XP at Farrel with +20 katars and +20 Zodiac katars than in Normal)

  • +20 Weapon : Depends on how many enchanting buffs you currently own and how much you rely on your luck. If I had to talk about myself, I can success on the +20 on first try very often, and have the best gear for enchanting, so I always go enchanting. It's either one of them on this one.

  • End-game weap : B is definetely the best choice, period overall.
    Though some people might argue about 2 or 3 classes for PvP but it's not that big of a difference.

  • F1 Farming : B.
    Already explained above. Though once again, it relies on RNG because Kryos is a lot faster if you don't have a bit of move speed so you technicly earn more money. But hey ! Just try both, at least to get the medals if you're planning to farm gold !

  • Ninja build : B in early build, then A for your final gear.

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 03:54 AM

• Leveling?

 

B. Expert mode

 

• Getting +20 wep?

 

B. Craft your own.

 

 

• F1 farming?

 

A. Kryos.

B. Alexandre.

 

Both for me. But at Alexandre you have the chance of the rare drop (gloves with 40 hlt). I think it depends, pick the one you like the most.


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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:04 PM

How about F1 farming or Hidden Map? which is better or more effecient?


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Posted 30 August 2017 - 01:42 AM

"How about F1 farming or Hidden Map? which is better or more effecient?"

Hidden map is a solution for the people that can't really do well in F1. But unlike F1 where your loot is most of the time guaranteed in Hidden map you should be sure to have less than 5 levels higher than the monsters to enjoy the highest equipement drop rate.

Is it really worth it ? That's debatable. Since the boss in F1 will drop a few golds and the monsters are scaling with your level which allows you to always have a nice drop rate for the Silver Gasha Coins. Also if we take the case of Alexandre you can even drop their gloves, which is what you would call your jackpot, while hidden mission map is more "unstable" but gives you some Devil Soul Stone, a currency to obtain Chaos Scrolls or not so often needed for events.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:12 AM

^ you are very correct. I'm not really seeing a good use of the devil soul stone drop. It would be better if you can trade it of to other items to~


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